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CodeWars Reloaded - Round 2

Started by oeed, 05 May 2013 - 01:58 AM
oeed #1
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:58 AM
Round 1 Results

First place was entry 10, by Symmetryc.
I encourage you to go to his profile and give him a good rating on his efforts.

Second place was entry 3, by MKlegoman357.
Again, I encourage you to give him a good rating.



Essentially you have one week to create a program using all your own code (no using other peoples APIs) that follows the task. Before midnight (GMT) of the Sunday/Monday at the end of the week you must submit your program by uploading it to Pastebin (use Package Maker or simliar if your program has multiple files) and sending the Pastebin ID to me via PM.

General Rules
  • You have 1 week to start and complete your program.
  • Your program must be submitted by 11:59PM GMT on the following Sunday of the competition starting.
  • All code has to be 100% yours*, you can not use any APIs or code you did not create. Failing to do so will have you removed from the competition.
  • *You are allowed to use example code from the PIL or the Wiki.
  • You are allowed to use your own APIs You are no longer allowed to use any APIs other than the default. (You can make APIs during the week and use those, however.)
  • You are not allowed to submit programs not made in the 1 week period.
  • You are allowed to use any editor, emulator etc.
  • Any registered forum user can compete, there is no limit on the number of competitors.
  • All programs are to be made completely anonymously, there can be no instance of your username or anything that could be recognised as you (logos etc).
  • You do not need to register (it would be nice to let us know by replying here, but it's not necessary), as long as you submit it on time thats all the matters.
  • You must submit your code to Pastebin anonymously.
Judging

The judging of programs will be split in two. Forum members will vote for their favorite program using the polls on this topic, hence why all programs are to be made anonymously (users may tend to vote for people they know). The judges (none of which will be competing, for obvious reasons) will also vote for their favorites and the two results will be combined. The top 50% will go through to the next round (dependent on numbers, but it will be near this) and this will repeat until we have one person left, the winner.

Current judges: Lyqyd, AfterLifeLochie, nitrogenfingers, Cruor, Sammich Lord

Round Two

Round Two starts at the time of posting (start now) and all programs must be submitted by 11:59PM Sunday, 26th May (GMT).

Your task is to create…wait for it, a door opener.

Now, before you rank on about how there's millions of door opening programs, these challenges are designed to be as open as possible. Your door opener can be as simple or complex as you like. Again, make sure you submit it by PMing me.

Remember, you can not include your username in anyway and all code has to be 100% your own.

If you have any queries just ask.
theoriginalbit #2
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:07 AM
The judges (none of which will be competing, for obvious reasons) will also vote for their favorites and the two results will be combined.
who are these judges you speak of?

also does the code need to be commented?
oeed #3
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:24 AM
The judges (none of which will be competing, for obvious reasons) will also vote for their favorites and the two results will be combined.
who are these judges you speak of?

also does the code need to be commented?

Well, I'm yet to have any, I'm mainly interested in Moderators. If I can't find anyone to do it then we'll just use community voting.

No, the code does not need to be commented.
Mads #4
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:03 AM
Do you mean moderators as in the forum moderators, or just some of us who are chosen?
Also, I like this model alot better, as it doesn't require us to actually meet up on a server or something similar.
oeed #5
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:07 AM
Do you mean moderators as in the forum moderators, or just some of us who are chosen?
Also, I like this model alot better, as it doesn't require us to actually meet up on a server or something similar.

Forum moderators. I'll probably PM a few to see if they're interested. I might not get them involved in the first round, however.
theoriginalbit #6
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:07 AM
Also, I like this model alot better, as it doesn't require us to actually meet up on a server or something similar.
Agreed. I also like it more as we are given a task to complete, as opposed to having to make up our own task.
Shnupbups #7
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:07 AM
Way better than the original. I will be competing in this!
theoriginalbit #8
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:08 AM
I will be competing in this!
I'm already programming ;)/>
Mads #9
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:08 AM
:o/>
Are we allowed to start already?

EDIT: ah, I thought it was something like Ludum Dare where you start at 00:00 or something.
diegodan1893 #10
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:09 AM
I only see one problem: how will you know if the program is made in a week?
theoriginalbit #11
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:10 AM
Are we allowed to start already?

Round One starts at the time of posting (start now) and all programs must be submitted by 11:59PM Sunday, 12th May (GMT).
Mads #12
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:10 AM
Oh, okay xD
I'll get going, then!
oeed #13
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:18 AM
I only see one problem: how will you know if the program is made in a week?

Well it is possible that someone could have already made this program a few weeks ago, but really for this task 1 week is more than enough.
superaxander #14
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:24 AM
Let's finish my api!
Engineer #15
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:36 AM
How awesome this contest seems, I have my doubts everyone will follow the rules. That is because there is no control on how long somebody can work on a project.
Of course, its up to the contestant if (s)he want to play fair, but still. Some people are going to abuse it, and that is because, once again, there is no real control.

This is me just giving feedback on the contest, not more or less. Since there is no real way to control it, I cant suggest nothing.
Remember: this is just feedback.
oeed #16
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:45 AM
How awesome this contest seems, I have my doubts everyone will follow the rules. That is because there is no control on how long somebody can work on a project.
Of course, its up to the contestant if (s)he want to play fair, but still. Some people are going to abuse it, and that is because, once again, there is no real control.

This is me just giving feedback on the contest, not more or less. Since there is no real way to control it, I cant suggest nothing.
Remember: this is just feedback.

I see where you are coming from, however, unless they have already made this program then they are forced in to a 1 week deadline. If I receive it after mid-night then their entry doesn't count.
BigSHinyToys #17
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:53 AM
Sounds interesting. This is a bad week time wise for me but I will see what I can do to get something together.

I would suggest a rule that when uploading to pastebin that it is posted anonymously and not using a user account to keep it anonymous and also stop people altering code after submitting it.
Mackan90096 #18
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:08 AM
Are you allowed to use the paintutils api ?
Engineer #19
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:09 AM
Are you allowed to use the paintutils api ?
Of course, since its in the CC standards. Im not a n organisator or something, fyi
oeed #20
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:11 AM
Sounds interesting. This is a bad week time wise for me but I will see what I can do to get something together.

I would suggest a rule that when uploading to pastebin that it is posted anonymously and not using a user account to keep it anonymous and also stop people altering code after submitting it.

Definitely, added to the rules.

And yes Mackan, you can.
GravityScore #21
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:12 AM
Sounds much better oeed!

The only problem I see is that you say people can only use code they made in that week, yet you say people can use their own APIs. Does this mean the APIs must also be coded during that week? And that people can't use their already made GUI APIs or such? I would say people shouldn't use their own pre-made APIs from outside the week, as that adds an unfair advantage to those without GUI APIs that they've made. And if an API isn't reusable from week to week, there's no point in making one.
theoriginalbit #22
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:14 AM
Is it bad that I've almost finished already :P/>
superaxander #23
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:18 AM
I first want to finish my gui api :P/>
theoriginalbit #24
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:20 AM
I first want to finish my gui api :P/>
I'm not even going to bother with mine… but that is all I have remaining. The GUI.
oeed #25
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:25 AM
Sounds much better oeed!

The only problem I see is that you say people can only use code they made in that week, yet you say people can use their own APIs. Does this mean the APIs must also be coded during that week? And that people can't use their already made GUI APIs or such? I would say people shouldn't use their own pre-made APIs from outside the week, as that adds an unfair advantage to those without GUI APIs that they've made. And if an API isn't reusable from week to week, there's no point in making one.

Hmmm, yea. Ok, I do agree with you I just don't really want to change to rules constantly, but yes.

You can no longer use APIs (other than the default ones of course).
oeed #26
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:28 AM
I first want to finish my gui api :P/>
I'm not even going to bother with mine… but that is all I have remaining. The GUI.

Ha ha, I work completely backwards. I almost always make the GUI first, then add functionality later.

I first want to finish my gui api :P/>

Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
H4X0RZ #27
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:29 AM
Does it must have a GUI or can I make a command line program?
GravityScore #28
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:30 AM
Does it must have a GUI or can I make a command line program?

It can be command line, although it's not going to be very impressive.
superaxander #29
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:35 AM
Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
Why not I started it after you posted the thread…
oeed #30
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:35 AM
Does it must have a GUI or can I make a command line program?

Yea, as GravityScore said, you can but remeber that most of the people who are voting are just normal forums users. They'll probably prefer a GUI over command line. But if it's packed with features I could be wrong
oeed #31
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:37 AM
Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
Why not I started it after you posted the thread…

Yea, I know. In fact I was half way though adding my Drawing API. It's just that most people don't have their own APIs, and this is meant to be a limited time frame program. It's all in the interest of fairness.
theoriginalbit #32
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:38 AM
Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
Why not I started it after you posted the thread…

Yea, I know. In fact I was half way though adding my Drawing API. It's just that most people don't have their own APIs, and this is meant to be a limited time frame program. It's all in the interest of fairness.
I think if you started development of your api after this post that should be alright though. yes?
superaxander #33
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:38 AM
I made it just for the program I could have typed it into the program itself! would that be better then

Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
Why not I started it after you posted the thread…

Yea, I know. In fact I was half way though adding my Drawing API. It's just that most people don't have their own APIs, and this is meant to be a limited time frame program. It's all in the interest of fairness.
I think if you started development of your api after this post that should be alright though. yes?
Indeed that was what I thought
oeed #34
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:49 AM
Yea, really sorry but due to fairness issues you can't really use it. In other words, stop :P/>
Why not I started it after you posted the thread…

Yea, I know. In fact I was half way though adding my Drawing API. It's just that most people don't have their own APIs, and this is meant to be a limited time frame program. It's all in the interest of fairness.
I think if you started development of your api after this post that should be alright though. yes?
Yea, thats fine.

I made it just for the program I could have typed it into the program itself! would that be better then

In that case you can, it's just that some people (inc. me) have a library of APIs they've made to handle GUI, strings etc. It's basically to filter those out.
theoriginalbit #35
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:51 AM
In that case you can, it's just that some people (inc. me) have a library of APIs they've made to handle GUI, strings etc. It's basically to filter those out.
This is the point in time that I am glad I don't have any APIs that I would want to use for this one…
superaxander #36
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:55 AM
I don't have either well until now :P/>
Mads #37
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:56 AM
I think that only competitors should be allowed to vote, like in Ludum Dare. This way we're sure that the people know what they're doing to some extent, and don't just vote because it looks fancy, but actually because it can do something.
oeed #38
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:57 AM
Yea, sorry for all this hassle with the APIs, I'm just trying to make this as even and fair as possible. Anyway, I've got go now, see you later.
superaxander #39
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:58 AM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather
oeed #40
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:59 AM
I think that only competitors should be allowed to vote, like in Ludum Dare. This way we're sure that the people know what they're doing to some extent, and don't just vote because it looks fancy, but actually because it can do something.

The only issue with that is even if they can't vote for their own there's not enough people to vote. It depends on the numbers we get.
superaxander #41
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:59 AM
It's 1.5.1 cc1.52 no other mods everyone is in adventure mode and can open computers. Lua ide is installed as ide on all computers and edit still exists
oeed #42
Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:00 AM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

Please be very careful with this, remember your program should remain 100% anonymous even to other competitors. Also, you risk someone stealing an idea of yours. I'd hate to have to disqualify someone because of this.

Yea, I've really gota go now, cya.
superaxander #43
Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:01 AM
I will make sure that they can only see the screens not who is typing
nitrogenfingers #44
Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:10 AM
I'm a little confused by the format. What exactly are we being tasked to produce?
superaxander #45
Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:10 AM
a rednet file sender
superaxander #46
Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:00 AM
back online
superaxander #47
Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:10 AM
server shutting down
SadKingBilly #48
Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:18 AM
I hate to abandon my current project halfway through (even for a day or two), but this just sounds like too much fun to pass up. Way better than "CodeWars" 1.0 was.
Spongy141 #49
Posted 05 May 2013 - 11:29 AM
Well… this is going to be interesting.
superaxander #50
Posted 05 May 2013 - 11:48 AM
Yes finally go ffmpeg to work!
Spongy141 #51
Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:35 PM
a rednet file sender
It doesn't exactly say "Make a rednet file sender", so I think its make any type of program…
theoriginalbit #52
Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:40 PM
It doesn't exactly say "Make a rednet file sender", so I think its make any type of program…

Round One

Round One starts at the time of posting (start now) and all programs must be submitted by 11:59PM Sunday, 12th May (GMT).

Your task is to create a utility to send and receive files via rednet between computers (you use the new modem channels or the old methods).

Remember, you can not include your username in anyway and all code has to be 100% your own.
Spongy141 #53
Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:56 PM
It doesn't exactly say "Make a rednet file sender", so I think its make any type of program…

Round One

Round One starts at the time of posting (start now) and all programs must be submitted by 11:59PM Sunday, 12th May (GMT).

Your task is to create a utility to send and receive files via rednet between computers (you use the new modem channels or the old methods).

Remember, you can not include your username in anyway and all code has to be 100% your own.
Oh… oops.
Dlcruz129 #54
Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:56 PM
Does this mean I have to somehow magically pull an encryption formula out of my ass? :(/>
theoriginalbit #55
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:04 PM
Does this mean I have to somehow magically pull an encryption formula out of my ass? :(/>
Nothing is stated about encryption being required.
Kingdaro #56
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:24 PM
Does it count as an external API if I use an image editor to create an image?
Dlcruz129 #57
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:25 PM
Does this mean I have to somehow magically pull an encryption formula out of my ass? :(/>
Nothing is stated about encryption being required.

I know, but still, I think it's pretty important.
theoriginalbit #58
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:30 PM
Does it count as an external API if I use an image editor to create an image?
well 'paint' is on the computers… so if you use paint I don't see why there would be any objections.
Dlcruz129 #59
Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:50 PM
Does it count as an external API if I use an image editor to create an image?
well 'paint' is on the computers… so if you use paint I don't see why there would be any objections.

I think even things like nPaintPro would be fine, too.
Mackan90096 #60
Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:05 PM
Ok. Good to know
Dlcruz129 #61
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:04 PM
Unfortunately we don't have any use for the YouTube channel anymore.
Kingdaro #62
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:09 PM
Unfortunately we don't have any use for the YouTube channel anymore.
Not completely true. We can still film ourselves developing our projects.
Dlcruz129 #63
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:29 PM
Unfortunately we don't have any use for the YouTube channel anymore.
Not completely true. We can still film ourselves developing our projects.

That would reveal who made which project, though.
Cruor #64
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:33 PM
This sounds like a lot of fun :)/>
Going to keep an eye on this :D/>
Dlcruz129 #65
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:40 PM
This sounds like a lot of fun :)/>/>
Going to keep an eye on this :D/>/>

Are you going to compete?
theoriginalbit #66
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:41 PM
This sounds like a lot of fun :)/>/>
Going to keep an eye on this :D/>/>
Are you going to compete?
if not you should Judge.
Kingdaro #67
Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:44 PM
I agree, Cruor would be a great judge. :)/>
Cruor #68
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:37 PM
Heh, we'll see.

Don't realy have anything to keep me occupied with at the moment, so I might end up joining :P/>
I lied, I am joining.
Good luck everybody :)/>
Spongy141 #69
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:49 PM
This first challenge really isn't hard… I doubt it will take anyone longer than 1-2 hours to make this.
Kingdaro #70
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:55 PM
This first challenge really isn't hard… I doubt it will take anyone longer than 1-2 hours to make this.
Honestly, with such a broad subject, a lot can be done, and the extra mile people take in making their programs is what will ultimately decide the victor.

The goal is to make a good program that sends files over rednet, not just to complete the challenge.
SadKingBilly #71
Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:55 PM
This first challenge really isn't hard… I doubt it will take anyone longer than 1-2 hours to make this.
:blink:/> It takes me more than two hours to conceive of, design, and code a half-decent GUI. After that, I've got to write the event handling, the file handling, the networking, and all the frills. You could easily write a file-sharing program in ten minutes, of course you could. But could you make a good file-sharing program in that time? Could you make a winning file-sharing program in that time?
Shinjiteru #72
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:29 PM
Why can Emulators / Editors not be used?
Spongy141 #73
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:34 PM
Why can Emulators / Editors not be used?

  • You are allowed to use any editor, emulator etc.
Shinjiteru #74
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:39 PM
Derp… Well anyways, so not being able to use any APIs, doe's this mean "function split" (one of the most commonly reused functions in cc programming) can't be used?
Kingdaro #75
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:43 PM
Nope. Splitting strings is relatively easy to do with gmatch though.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1426954/split-string-in-lua
oeed #76
Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:52 PM
It doesn't exactly say "Make a rednet file sender", so I think its make any type of program…

Round One

Round One starts at the time of posting (start now) and all programs must be submitted by 11:59PM Sunday, 12th May (GMT).

Your task is to create a utility to send and receive files via rednet between computers (you use the new modem channels or the old methods).

Remember, you can not include your username in anyway and all code has to be 100% your own.
Yea, I might make that bold in the main post. It's rather important :P/>
Does it count as an external API if I use an image editor to create an image?
well 'paint' is on the computers… so if you use paint I don't see why there would be any objections.

I think even things like nPaintPro would be fine, too.
Yea, use what ever program you want to make your images/code. I'm more concerned with people using an API they didn't make that another forum user put lots of time in to.

This first challenge really isn't hard… I doubt it will take anyone longer than 1-2 hours to make this.
Well, this was in fact going to be the challenge for the original CodeWars where the limit was 2 hours. But one of the reasons why I like this challenge so much is that is has so many ways that you can add to it.

Derp… Well anyways, so not being able to use any APIs, doe's this mean "function split" (one of the most commonly reused functions in cc programming) can't be used?

You are allowed to use any functions your find on sites such as the PIL, stackoverflow, lua-user, etc.
Shinjiteru #77
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:03 PM
Thanks for the clarification Oeed! :)/> (wasn't sure about StackOverflow)

Currently designing my program, I expect to have this done in 8 hours.
oeed #78
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:08 PM
Thanks for the clarification Oeed! :)/> (wasn't sure about StackOverflow)

Currently designing my program, I expect to have this done in 8 hours.

Ok, remember, you have (over infact, still) a week to do this. So don't rush it, I can't wait until Sunday, we should have some amazing programs.
Shinjiteru #79
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:31 PM
:P/> I'm going to use the extra time to upgrade it to optimal performance and perfection, I just want a v1.0 of my program in 8 hours lol. XD that's what I'm working on, at this rate you might have a v10 of my program :P/>
oeed #80
Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:41 PM
:P/> I'm going to use the extra time to upgrade it to optimal performance and perfection, I just want a v1.0 of my program in 8 hours lol. XD that's what I'm working on, at this rate you might have a v10 of my program :P/>

Yea ok :P/>
superaxander #81
Posted 06 May 2013 - 03:33 AM
Stupid button printing the text seven character to the left sigh
nitrogenfingers #82
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:17 AM
Just a quick thought; this idea was first pitched as a sort of game show, which was kind of a cool idea. You could make use of the youtube channel by having a panel of judges appear on a server at once and commenting on the programs in sequence, perhaps not the source code but certainly the functionality. Then once you've sort of shared your opinions you can combine the scores with those from the poll to cast the winner and do the 'reveal' to indicate who each contestant was and who actually won. Might be a bit showy but that struck me as half the fun of the original…
GravityScore #83
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:29 AM
Just a quick thought; this idea was first pitched as a sort of game show, which was kind of a cool idea. You could make use of the youtube channel by having a panel of judges appear on a server at once and commenting on the programs in sequence, perhaps not the source code but certainly the functionality. Then once you've sort of shared your opinions you can combine the scores with those from the poll to cast the winner and do the 'reveal' to indicate who each contestant was and who actually won. Might be a bit showy but that struck me as half the fun of the original…

I like this idea! Sounds really fun! It could also be filmed on the server with an audience of players too. Might be a bit tough to organise with judges and an audience, but it would be great if you could do it.
superaxander #84
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:31 AM
It would indeed be awesome if we could arrange that! I have just found out how to do a single window recording using ffmpeg
LordIkol #85
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:48 AM
hm sounds interesting if i find some time i will join the challenge too
oeed #86
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:54 AM
Just a quick thought; this idea was first pitched as a sort of game show, which was kind of a cool idea. You could make use of the youtube channel by having a panel of judges appear on a server at once and commenting on the programs in sequence, perhaps not the source code but certainly the functionality. Then once you've sort of shared your opinions you can combine the scores with those from the poll to cast the winner and do the 'reveal' to indicate who each contestant was and who actually won. Might be a bit showy but that struck me as half the fun of the original…

Sounds like a good idea to me. I didn't really know how to incorporate the original gameshow aspect to it but this seems like it may work well.
LordIkol #87
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:16 AM
to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running
oeed #88
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:33 AM
to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running

Yea, I suppose. However, I don't know how entertaining it would be really. If I filmed my self coding it would basically just be me making something, finding and error, half fixing the error then wondering why it's still not fixed.
superaxander #89
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:34 AM
Ok found out my computer laggs to much when recording with ffmpeg so I won't be able to

to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running

Yea, I suppose. However, I don't know how entertaining it would be really. If I filmed my self coding it would basically just be me making something, finding and error, half fixing the error then wondering why it's still not fixed.
Maybe speedcoding?
oeed #90
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:36 AM
Ok found out my computer laggs to much when recording with ffmpeg so I won't be able to

to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running

Yea, I suppose. However, I don't know how entertaining it would be really. If I filmed my self coding it would basically just be me making something, finding and error, half fixing the error then wondering why it's still not fixed.
Maybe speedcoding?

Maybe, anyway, if you want to record you self go ahead. But I won't be for one.
theoriginalbit #91
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:39 AM
Maybe speedcoding?
I'm considering starting again and doing a speedcoding recording.
LordIkol #92
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:48 AM
another thing just came to my Mind. How will the programms be presented to the Community?

I think making a video of the final result is not working cause that would possibly reveal who made it.
If we just put on the code so that they can download and test it needs a good documentation so that they know what they can do etc.
superaxander #93
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:51 AM
you have to send it to oeed he publishes them anonymously
Dave-ee Jones #94
Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:03 AM
Shame. :(/> I really want to get in but I fail with Rednet programming :(/> WHY IS THE HARDEST THE FIRST ROUND??

Everything else I'm fine with! I'll give it a shot but it won't be that good.

EDIT: My program is working good so far…I won't tell you guys what it is, but it will be quite useful for CC. At first I was thinking of a Emailing system but realised it was too popular and everyone was probably making one…
oeed #95
Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:46 AM
another thing just came to my Mind. How will the programms be presented to the Community?

I think making a video of the final result is not working cause that would possibly reveal who made it.
If we just put on the code so that they can download and test it needs a good documentation so that they know what they can do etc.

As superaxander said, you need to send it strait to me. In terms of being presented, I'm considering 3 things:
- A simple poll (on this topic)
- Something on the website (the website I made for the earlier CodeWars)
- A downloadable program that will run them all for you.

I probably won't do the last, I'll do the second if I can be bothered/have the time, other wise It'll be the first.
That is, unless someone else suggests a better way of course.

Shame. :(/> I really want to get in but I fail with Rednet programming :(/> WHY IS THE HARDEST THE FIRST ROUND??

Everything else I'm fine with! I'll give it a shot but it won't be that good.

There's always next time (seriously, if this goes well I see no reason not to run it again). If you just make it really shiny and fancy people will love it.
LordIkol #96
Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:44 AM
ok we will see how it goes, have to think about what cool stuff i could make with sending files over rednet :D/>


-Snip-
There's always next time (seriously, if this goes well I see no reason not to run it again). If you just make it really shiny and fancy people will love it.

Yeah put it in an OS and give it a spacy Name then they will love it, and dont forget a fake slowprint loading Screen :D/>
theoriginalbit #97
Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:49 AM
and dont forget a fake slowprint loading Screen :D/>
theoriginalbit slaps LordIkol out of existence.
Dlcruz129 #98
Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:06 AM
Ok found out my computer laggs to much when recording with ffmpeg so I won't be able to

to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running

Yea, I suppose. However, I don't know how entertaining it would be really. If I filmed my self coding it would basically just be me making something, finding and error, half fixing the error then wondering why it's still not fixed.
Maybe speedcoding?

I don't do all my coding at once. I code for maybe 20 min, get bored, do other stuff, and come back to it later. :P/>
Engineer #99
Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:47 AM
As far as the speedcoding goes, I did it for a while. Its harder than you think it is. Sometimes you think for a while, but it must be sort of entertaining, right?
Thats why I quitted doing it, I had a YouTube account for it. Not going to post it here, dont want to make free publicity for myself.

For those who are interested, PM me.
Spongy141 #100
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:10 PM
Ok found out my computer laggs to much when recording with ffmpeg so I won't be able to

to get some live on the youtube channel we could still record how we code it, or test it and post it after the judgment is done.
so nothing would be revealed and people can watch it while the next challenge is running

Yea, I suppose. However, I don't know how entertaining it would be really. If I filmed my self coding it would basically just be me making something, finding and error, half fixing the error then wondering why it's still not fixed.
Maybe speedcoding?

I don't do all my coding at once. I code for maybe 20 min, get bored, do other stuff, and come back to it later. :P/>
Same, its hard to code all at once, since a lot of times I sit there and think, coding is the easy part for me, getting the idea is hardest.
Smiley43210 #101
Posted 06 May 2013 - 05:59 PM
-snip-
Maybe speedcoding?

I don't do all my coding at once. I code for maybe 20 min, get bored, do other stuff, and come back to it later. :P/>
Same, its hard to code all at once, since a lot of times I sit there and think, coding is the easy part for me, getting the idea is hardest.
Yea, sometimes someone comes to look over my shoulder and watch, and I'll just be sitting there, thinking about what to add next. Then they'll leave, seeing I'm not always actively coding.
oeed #102
Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:04 PM
Lyqyd has join the (currently empty) judging team and has come up with a very sound method of judging.

As suggested by Lyqyd the judges will run the following tests on the programs:

Two testing computer will be set up within rednet range of each other. A third computer will be used to relay rednet messages between them, for rednet traffic analysis purposes. Modems will be placed on arbitrary sides, which the contestants will not know beforehand.

A test file containing letters, numbers, line breaks, punctuation, and special characters will be sent from one computer to the other, if possible, following directions provided by the submitter. The file will then be transferred back.


The testing will include a few attempts to break the program. Nothing too crazy, just enough to trip up poorly-designed rednet handling.

Finally, as the other two moderators are competing there are spaces for more judges in the team. If you are interested in judging please PM me. Please note, however, we will be choosing well known/trustworthy members over inexperienced/new members. Also note that you can not compete and judge, only one or the other. I won't be judging as I am competing.

Edit: AfterLifeLochie has just messaged me to say that he will be judging, so we only need one or two more people.
Spongy141 #103
Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:08 PM
@oeed
Um… I have to say I hate that idea for judging. I agree with the rednet traffic analysis comp, but ONLY having two comps… base it off of what the program would be most used for, a cloud storage, were you can download a file anytime, and upload at anytime, which would require their being a 'server' comp, which stores all the files. Simply sending a file to an other comp is too easy, making a storage system with rednet, which it still would send a file over rednet, sounds better to me.
Kingdaro #104
Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:42 PM
Pretty sure the goal here is geared closer to an FTP program than it is to cloud storage.

Though I would imagine anything that involves sending files over rednet would be accepted.
Lyqyd #105
Posted 06 May 2013 - 08:09 PM
@oeed
Um… I have to say I hate that idea for judging. I agree with the rednet traffic analysis comp, but ONLY having two comps… base it off of what the program would be most used for, a cloud storage, were you can download a file anytime, and upload at anytime, which would require their being a 'server' comp, which stores all the files. Simply sending a file to an other comp is too easy, making a storage system with rednet, which it still would send a file over rednet, sounds better to me.
Your task is to create a utility to send and receive files via rednet between computers (you use the new modem channels or the old methods).

The testing setup is designed to minimize the potential for inadvertent failure inducement while allowing for the stated goals to be evaluated. The stated goal (as you can read above, quoted from the first post) is to create a utility to send and receive files via rednet. If your submission is also a cloud-like file hosting service, that is fine, as long as it can send and receive files via rednet. The goal was stated clearly and is simple enough to understand while allowing for a variety of solutions. It requires some knowledge in a variety of areas, and offers opportunities for self-improvement. This challenge is fairly well-designed, either intentionally, or by happy accident. Your vision of what the program should be neither matches the stated goal, nor is it an improvement (to the contest) upon it. :)/>
nitrogenfingers #106
Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:06 PM
Looking over my schedule this week I don't know I'll have much time to put in a strong entry, so not sure I'll be able to compete but would like to be involved. Would I be able to help out as a judge?
oeed #107
Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:08 PM
Looking over my schedule this week I don't know I'll have much time to put in a strong entry, so not sure I'll be able to compete but would like to be involved. Would I be able to help out as a judge?

Yes, in fact Lyqyd and I were hoping you'd be able to.
I'll get in touch when we start judging (Monday next week).
Dave-ee Jones #108
Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:10 AM
another thing just came to my Mind. How will the programms be presented to the Community?

I think making a video of the final result is not working cause that would possibly reveal who made it.
If we just put on the code so that they can download and test it needs a good documentation so that they know what they can do etc.

As superaxander said, you need to send it strait to me. In terms of being presented, I'm considering 3 things:
- A simple poll (on this topic)
- Something on the website (the website I made for the earlier CodeWars)
- A downloadable program that will run them all for you.

I probably won't do the last, I'll do the second if I can be bothered/have the time, other wise It'll be the first.
That is, unless someone else suggests a better way of course.

Shame. :(/> I really want to get in but I fail with Rednet programming :(/> WHY IS THE HARDEST THE FIRST ROUND??

Everything else I'm fine with! I'll give it a shot but it won't be that good.

There's always next time (seriously, if this goes well I see no reason not to run it again). If you just make it really shiny and fancy people will love it.
Thanks. I think I've got something worked out. :)/> Though it probably won't be shiny and fancy :P/>

EDIT: Are we allowed to use downloaded APIs/programs to help us? E.g NPaintPro to help us paint backgrounds and stuff?
GravityScore #109
Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:41 AM
EDIT: Are we allowed to use downloaded APIs/programs to help us? E.g NPaintPro to help us paint backgrounds and stuff?

Yes as long as the image was made this week.
oeed #110
Posted 07 May 2013 - 03:52 AM
EDIT: Are we allowed to use downloaded APIs/programs to help us? E.g NPaintPro to help us paint backgrounds and stuff?

Yes as long as the image was made this week.

Ditto. (Yes)
LordIkol #111
Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:43 AM
and dont forget a fake slowprint loading Screen :D/>
theoriginalbit slaps LordIkol out of existence.


write("Loki is on the way to end of Universe please wait until he has left:")
textutils.slowPrint(string.rep(".",1000000))

:P/>
Smiley43210 #112
Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:26 AM
and dont forget a fake slowprint loading Screen :D/>
theoriginalbit slaps LordIkol out of existence.


write("Loki is on the way to end of Universe please wait until he has left:")
textutils.slowPrint(string.rep(".",1000000))

:P/>
Off topic:
I got bored, so here's nothing :P/>:
Spoilerhttp://pastebin.com/4wmKTzmy
pastebin get 4wmKTzmy lord
OR
local w, h = term.getSize()
term.clear()
term.setCursorPos(1, 1)
local header = "LordIkol's Status"
local hlen = (w - #header) / 2
print(string.rep("-", math.ceil(hlen)) .. header .. string.rep("-", math.floor(hlen)))
local x1, y1 = term.getCursorPos()
print("Traveling to the end of the universe.")
print("Please wait...")
write("Progress: ")
local x2, y2 = term.getCursorPos()
for i = 0, 10000, 0.25 do
  term.setCursorPos(x2, y2)
  local t = i / 100 .. "%"
  write(t .. string.rep(" ", w - #t))
  sleep(tonumber(math.random(0, 1) == 0 and "0." .. math.random(5, 9) or "1." .. math.random(0, 4)))
end
term.setCursorPos(x1, y1)
term.clearLine()
print("Reached the end of the universe. Now what?")
term.clearLine(); print(); term.clearLine()
term.setCursorPos(1, y2 - 1)

On topic:
Surely, I'd love to compete next round. Hopefully it's a better theme :D/>.
Spongy141 #113
Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:12 AM
and dont forget a fake slowprint loading Screen :D/>
theoriginalbit slaps LordIkol out of existence.


write("Loki is on the way to end of Universe please wait until he has left:")
textutils.slowPrint(string.rep(".",1000000))

:P/>
Off topic:
I got bored, so here's nothing :P/>:
Spoilerhttp://pastebin.com/4wmKTzmy
pastebin get 4wmKTzmy lord
OR
local w, h = term.getSize()
term.clear()
term.setCursorPos(1, 1)
local header = "LordIkol's Status"
local hlen = (w - #header) / 2
print(string.rep("-", math.ceil(hlen)) .. header .. string.rep("-", math.floor(hlen)))
local x1, y1 = term.getCursorPos()
print("Traveling to the end of the universe.")
print("Please wait...")
write("Progress: ")
local x2, y2 = term.getCursorPos()
for i = 0, 10000, 0.25 do
  term.setCursorPos(x2, y2)
  local t = i / 100 .. "%"
  write(t .. string.rep(" ", w - #t))
  sleep(tonumber(math.random(0, 1) == 0 and "0." .. math.random(5, 9) or "1." .. math.random(0, 4)))
end
term.setCursorPos(x1, y1)
term.clearLine()
print("Reached the end of the universe. Now what?")
term.clearLine(); print(); term.clearLine()
term.setCursorPos(1, y2 - 1)

On topic:
Surely, I'd love to compete next round. Hopefully it's a better theme :D/>.
Yeah it was a quite easy theme, even if your making it look nice, its still pretty easy. Hope next weeks is harder… wait nvm I like the easy way :P/>
oeed #114
Posted 08 May 2013 - 03:49 AM
What do you guys think about a points bases system, rather than a knock out? It means you can do every challenge, and with the scoring system Lyqyd has developed it will be easy do do.
superaxander #115
Posted 08 May 2013 - 04:44 AM
What do you guys think about a points bases system, rather than a knock out? It means you can do every challenge, and with the scoring system Lyqyd has developed it will be easy do do.
Good plan
H4X0RZ #116
Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:58 AM
What is the next programing theme?
Spongy141 #117
Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:02 AM
We wont know until Monday (I think, or Sunday, since Sunday is the due date for this weeks theme).
Dlcruz129 #118
Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:44 AM
What do you guys think about a points bases system, rather than a knock out? It means you can do every challenge, and with the scoring system Lyqyd has developed it will be easy do do.

Fine by me!
Kingdaro #119
Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:51 PM
Sounds like a plan.
sjele #120
Posted 08 May 2013 - 02:03 PM
What do you guys think about a points bases system, rather than a knock out? It means you can do every challenge, and with the scoring system Lyqyd has developed it will be easy do do.

Much better, this way you still get to compete if you had little time this week (like me).
oeed #121
Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:13 PM
What is the next programing theme?

If I told you know it would make it much easier to cheat/get a head start :P/>

Ok, well seems like this is the way to go.
Lyqyd #122
Posted 09 May 2013 - 12:56 AM
The exact scoring criterion, as laid out for the current challenge, only really make sense for the current challenge. I'll be sure to adjust the rubric according to the nature of the challenge for the next contest. :)/>
Dave-ee Jones #123
Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:10 AM
So lemme get this straight, CodeWars didn't go to plan and they abandoned it?
Spongy141 #124
Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:56 AM
So lemme get this straight, CodeWars didn't go to plan and they abandoned it?
No… it just was set up horribly, and with the time zones, a lot of people got confused, so we changed it to this so it would be easier to do, and will give you more time to make something awesome.
oeed #125
Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:01 AM
So lemme get this straight, CodeWars didn't go to plan and they abandoned it?
Yea, as Spongy said, it had flaws and this is pretty much competly differnet appart from the name and the fact that it's a competition.

I've already had a few submittions, there's no rush, but I'm hoping we get a few more. I suppose people will have more time to work on them this weekend. Anyway, we'll see how it goes.
H4X0RZ #126
Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:48 AM
Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?
Dave-ee Jones #127
Posted 11 May 2013 - 04:35 AM
Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?

Sorry, but no. It's a contest to see who is the winner at the end.
oeed #128
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:06 AM
Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?
Yes.

Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?

Sorry, but no. It's a contest to see who is the winner at the end.
I changed the rules a few days ago. It is no longer a knock out, therefor you can.
H4X0RZ #129
Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:02 AM
Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?
Yes.

Is it possible to start in the second round when you don't played the first?

Sorry, but no. It's a contest to see who is the winner at the end.
I changed the rules a few days ago. It is no longer a knock out, therefor you can.

Thx a lot guy :)/>
Spongy141 #130
Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:41 PM
Wow, can't wait until tomorrow.
Engineer #131
Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:52 PM
Wow, can't wait until tomorrow.

I hope you mean you cant wait until monday or tuesday. I mean, tomorrow is the deadline.. They are not judged instantly.
I presume the results come on monday or tuesday, but that is dependent on the quantity of programs. I dont how much programs are sent in :P/>
Dlcruz129 #132
Posted 11 May 2013 - 02:14 PM
Argh, I still have plenty of work to do. To CCDesk!
MKlegoman357 #133
Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:21 PM
I think you should add new criteria:
- Suitable for advanced and normal computers

EDIT: Not now, of course :P/> . Maybe next round.
Engineer #134
Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:37 PM
I think you should add new criteria:
- Suitable for advanced and normal computers

EDIT: Not now, of course :P/>/> . Maybe next round.

Personally, Im asking why. The goal is to make a program, and of course, it could give you bonus points, but I would not say to implement this in the criteria. This is all about making a program that has one functionality, with extras that the user wants to add. That is what makes this contest so free.
MKlegoman357 #135
Posted 11 May 2013 - 03:45 PM
I think you should add new criteria:
- Suitable for advanced and normal computers

EDIT: Not now, of course :P/>/> . Maybe next round.

Personally, Im asking why. The goal is to make a program, and of course, it could give you bonus points, but I would not say to implement this in the criteria. This is all about making a program that has one functionality, with extras that the user wants to add. That is what makes this contest so free.

Your right! Thank you for your explanation.
Spongy141 #136
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:03 PM
Wait, what exactly would the prize be for winning a round?
Engineer #137
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:18 PM
Wait, what exactly would the prize be for winning a round?

Honor

Edit: Okay that was a bit mean. Sorry for that

However, as far as I know, you dont win anything really. Its just for fun :)/>
Edited on 11 May 2013 - 03:32 PM
Kingdaro #138
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:29 PM
However, as far as I know, you dont win anything really. Its just to see who is 'the best'
I don't really like that either. I would say there's no prize at all, and that the competition was created to a. give people something to do, and b. just for fun.
Engineer #139
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:32 PM
However, as far as I know, you dont win anything really. Its just to see who is 'the best'
I don't really like that either. I would say there's no prize at all, and that the competition was created to a. give people something to do, and b. just for fun.

There you have a point… Edited! :)/>
Spongy141 #140
Posted 11 May 2013 - 05:57 PM
I was thinking it was going to be something on the line of a custom title…. but I guess a self accomplishment works too (Not saying I won or anything) :P/>
Dlcruz129 #141
Posted 11 May 2013 - 06:18 PM
I was thinking it was going to be something on the line of a custom title…. but I guess a self accomplishment works too (Not saying I won or anything) :P/>

I briefly considered this. You'd have to talk to Lyqyd or one of the mods about that. Also, it would probably incite bragging.
Cruor #142
Posted 11 May 2013 - 06:21 PM

Good luck guys! Looking forward to see the code, remember to submit it in time!
Lyqyd #143
Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:08 PM
I won't be giving out a custom title for this, most likely. It's possible, but I'm not going to specify the conditions under which I'd be willing to do so. :)/>
Dlcruz129 #144
Posted 11 May 2013 - 07:55 PM
I won't be giving out a custom title for this, most likely. It's possible, but I'm not going to specify the conditions under which I'd be willing to do so. :)/>

That's fine. I've grown rather attached to my present title anyways. :P/>
Simon #145
Posted 11 May 2013 - 09:32 PM
AAAAaaaa, just saw this topic!

Speedcoding, Engage!
oeed #146
Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:17 AM
Wow, can't wait until tomorrow.

I hope you mean you cant wait until monday or tuesday. I mean, tomorrow is the deadline.. They are not judged instantly.
I presume the results come on monday or tuesday, but that is dependent on the quantity of programs. I dont how much programs are sent in :P/>
Now, depending on wether I can be bothered to finnish (almost complete) program or not I may or may not be a judge. However, I wouldn't expect a verdict until Wednesday or later. That's just a wild guess though.

I think you should add new criteria:
- Suitable for advanced and normal computers

EDIT: Not now, of course :P/> . Maybe next round.
As Engineer said, the contest it meant to be an open as possible. Even playing in survival, advanced computers aren't that hard to get. What are you meant to do with your gold anyway? Not critiquing this allows people to remove the limits of standard computers. In short, unless someone convinces me otherwise, this won't be a criteria in any of the rounds.

I was thinking it was going to be something on the line of a custom title…. but I guess a self accomplishment works too (Not saying I won or anything) :P/>
I won't be giving out a custom title for this, most likely. It's possible, but I'm not going to specify the conditions under which I'd be willing to do so. :)/>
I do agree with you two to a certain extend, however. What about the 'grand' winner? As in the person who has the most points after all the rounds. Now, there is a good chance that they will have over 1000 posts, but just a thought.
Shnupbups #147
Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:48 AM
Maybe, guys, instead of a custom title, a custom label?

Anyways, I don't, and didn't, have enough time to do this. So I'm out, sorry!
jag #148
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:26 AM
AAAAaaaa, just saw this topic!

Speedcoding, Engage!
Haha same! :D/>
Doe I'll try to enter the next one instead :)/>
1lann #149
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:13 AM
*sigh* I can't complete it on time. I got to go to sleep and in 8 hours the comp will be over. Well I'll be finishing off my program in the future and will publish it like a normal program. Btw GravityScore isn't doing this at all, he'll probably help me finish off my version. i do have a recording of the 6 or so hours of me working on it. Though it's only 750 lines of condensed code.
Dlcruz129 #150
Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:36 AM
*sigh* I can't complete it on time. I got to go to sleep and in 8 hours the comp will be over. Well I'll be finishing off my program in the future and will publish it like a normal program. Btw GravityScore isn't doing this at all, he'll probably help me finish off my version. i do have a recording of the 6 or so hours of me working on it. Though it's only 750 lines of condensed code.

750 lines? Mine's only about 250, atm. It's not quite done yet, but still…
SadKingBilly #151
Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:38 PM
:wacko:/> I can't believe I'm finally done.

Is there any chance of increasing the length of the next round? Between work, college, and sleep, there's not a lot of time in seven days.
MudkipTheEpic #152
Posted 12 May 2013 - 01:04 PM
I have a suggestion for the next round: A working anti-virus.

Totally unbiased, I am personally not very good with AV's myself.
theoriginalbit #153
Posted 12 May 2013 - 01:17 PM
:wacko:/> I can't believe I'm finally done.
Is there any chance of increasing the length of the next round? Between work, college, and sleep, there's not a lot of time in seven days.
I was planning on finishing my program this weekend…. but after spending almost 48 hours straight on doing work for university, I didn't have any time to finish my programme… However that being said, I think that a week is a fair enough length, any longer and I think it would be too long..
Kingdaro #154
Posted 12 May 2013 - 01:32 PM
I have a suggestion for the next round: A working anti-virus.

Totally unbiased, I am personally not very good with AV's myself.
That would take a little longer than a week I would think. Especially with these peoples' busy schedules.
Spongy141 #155
Posted 12 May 2013 - 01:53 PM
*sigh* I can't complete it on time. I got to go to sleep and in 8 hours the comp will be over. Well I'll be finishing off my program in the future and will publish it like a normal program. Btw GravityScore isn't doing this at all, he'll probably help me finish off my version. i do have a recording of the 6 or so hours of me working on it. Though it's only 750 lines of condensed code.

750 lines? Mine's only about 250, atm. It's not quite done yet, but still…
750? 250? Mines only 100…
Engineer #156
Posted 12 May 2013 - 01:56 PM
The thing is you have different form of coding:


if something then
   x = 1
end

If something then x = 1 end
so up to 300 lines wont impress me :P/>
However, the contest is about how functional the program is, not the amount of lines xD
Spongy141 #157
Posted 12 May 2013 - 02:09 PM
The thing is you have different form of coding:


if something then
   x = 1
end

If something then x = 1 end
so up to 300 lines wont impress me :P/>
However, the contest is about how functional the program is, not the amount of lines xD
True, I have way less than 750 lines… and I can't find a way to break my program.
oeed #158
Posted 12 May 2013 - 05:51 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?
Dave-ee Jones #159
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:17 PM
So, even though Sunday was yesterday, we can still hand it in by the 19th (this Sunday).

That would be good. Although, that means I'm going to have to make it better and everyone is probably going to have something better than mine, based on what I've seen.

Lol
Symmetryc #160
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:20 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?
Yes, considering that many people have most of their free time during the weekends.

Also, I just thought of an idea, what if the judges judged while the next competition was going on? So like as soon as the Rednet file sender competition is done (In two hours I think), you post a new topic and start judging while people are doing that topic, and once that was is done, you post a new one and judge the second topic, etc.
oeed #161
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:25 PM
So, even though Sunday was yesterday, we can still hand it in by the 19th (this Sunday).

That would be good. Although, that means I'm going to have to make it better and everyone is probably going to have something better than mine, based on what I've seen.

Lol
Nonono…
I didn't mean that. The deadline for this challenge is still in 1 1/2 hours.

I meant in future challenges. So we'd start it on Friday the 17th, and finnish on the 28th.
1lann #162
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:26 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?
Yes, I would totally agree with that.
oeed #163
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:27 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?
Yes, considering that many people have most of their free time during the weekends.

Also, I just thought of an idea, what if the judges judged while the next competition was going on? So like as soon as the Rednet file sender competition is done (In two hours I think), you post a new topic and start judging while people are doing that topic, and once that was is done, you post a new one and judge the second topic, etc.

The problem with that is, first of all the mod don't want multiple topics for one thing. Second of all, because we start judging on Monday it just reduces the time people can spend on it during weekends etc.

The next round will begin this Friday.
1lann #164
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:28 PM
Actually… Since I'm not submitting, I would like to apply to be in the judging team.
Engineer #165
Posted 12 May 2013 - 06:50 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?

I do really agree with this. Also, this gives the judges (*wink wink*) more time to judge the programs. :)/>
So, that is probably my last post for this week! Off to Berlin! :D/>
Spongy141 #166
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:14 PM
Where do we submit? And pastebin keeps leaving out parts of my code…. which is really annoying…
oeed #167
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:14 PM
Actually… Since I'm not submitting, I would like to apply to be in the judging team.

I'm going to have to say no for this round. We've almost got more judges the competitors.

Where do we submit? And pastebin keeps leaving out parts of my code…. which is really annoying…

Just PM me with pastebin code(s)
Symmetryc #168
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:19 PM
On the topic of not having enough time, would it help if you had two weekends, so 9 days to complete it?
Yes, considering that many people have most of their free time during the weekends.

Also, I just thought of an idea, what if the judges judged while the next competition was going on? So like as soon as the Rednet file sender competition is done (In two hours I think), you post a new topic and start judging while people are doing that topic, and once that was is done, you post a new one and judge the second topic, etc.

The problem with that is, first of all the mod don't want multiple topics for one thing. Second of all, because we start judging on Monday it just reduces the time people can spend on it during weekends etc.

The next round will begin this Friday.
By "topic" I meant the code prompt not thread :P/>, but OK.
Kingdaro #169
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:22 PM
Alright I think it's about time that I just stop; there's only 40 minutes left and my program is beyond broken to the point where it isn't even worth debugging, and I think I've already wasted enough of my time today.

At least I can say I tried.
MKlegoman357 #170
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:29 PM
Alright I think it's about time that I just stop; there's only 40 minutes left and my program is beyond broken to the point where it isn't even worth debugging, and I think I've already wasted enough of my time today.

At least I can say I tried.

I was just like you -
Making my program about 3 days and rewrote it today.

If you failed, don't give up; maybe your program could become one of the best rednet file sharing programs. :)/>
Jarle212 #171
Posted 12 May 2013 - 07:57 PM
Can the deadline be extended one houre? Plzzz
Dlcruz129 #172
Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:20 PM
Gonna have to back out. My program's really buggy. :(/>

I severely doubt there are still spots for judging, but I'd lurv to judge if possible.
1lann #173
Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:59 PM
Since the competition is over, if anyone's interested here's my not working file sender, inside the program you can see a features list that will be in the program. http://pastebin.com/N8Net7Wu
nitrogenfingers #174
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:30 PM
Actually… Since I'm not submitting, I would like to apply to be in the judging team.

I'm going to have to say no for this round. We've almost got more judges the competitors.

Looks like I'll be competing next time. Always more interesting to have participants than admin staff in surplus. When will it be starting?
Symmetryc #175
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:32 PM
Actually… Since I'm not submitting, I would like to apply to be in the judging team.

I'm going to have to say no for this round. We've almost got more judges the competitors.

Looks like I'll be competing next time. Always more interesting to have participants than admin staff in surplus. When will it be starting?
The next round will begin this Friday.
;)/>
Kingdaro #176
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:41 PM
I do plan on competing next week; this week was mostly bad time management on my part.

I'm curious of what the next theme will be. :o/>
Symmetryc #177
Posted 12 May 2013 - 09:59 PM
I'm curious of what the next theme will be. :o/>
Yeah same here :P/>. I'm actually bored now.

Oeed, how about you practice competitions in between the weekends on every odd week? XD.
theoriginalbit #178
Posted 12 May 2013 - 10:32 PM
Ok the comp. is over, I am awake, if anyone's interested here is what I had done, there were really only 2 things that I needed to finish, then I needed to actually test it, but uni work took priority. Pretty sure there will be bugs, I haven't tested it at all :P/> http://pastebin.com/9x4EKnPL
oeed #179
Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:04 AM
I'm curious of what the next theme will be. :o/>
Yeah same here :P/>. I'm actually bored now.

Oeed, how about you practice competitions in between the weekends on every odd week? XD.

What do you mean?
Lyqyd #180
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:26 AM
Cleaned this thread up a little bit. Let's not get snippy, guys. Remember what the report button is for. :)/>

I am looking forward to judging the entries!
Lyqyd #181
Posted 13 May 2013 - 02:17 PM
Posts with a submission removed. Give oeed a little while. It's been less than 48 hours since he last posted, I believe. If you insist on posting your submissions before judging, they will be disqualified.
Dlcruz129 #182
Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:52 PM
Out of curiosity, how many submissions were there?
Smiley43210 #183
Posted 13 May 2013 - 07:34 PM
I cannot wait for Friday; I'm curious about the next theme. Although knowing myself, I think I will never finish and submit a submission once I start it. I have 12 projects I'm trying to work on (be it CC, other Lua projects, AutoIt, Java, Minecraft maps, etc.), and I'm pretty sure I'm only going to finish 1 or 2 of 'em.
oeed #184
Posted 13 May 2013 - 07:54 PM
Out of curiosity, how many submissions were there?

Nine, we originally had about double that but we had quite a number drop out. I understand how busy some people are. Hopefully two weekends will allow more people to participate.
oeed #185
Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:01 PM
Ok, sorry for not posting these earlier, I've been rather busy in the last few days, and I still am. You are now able to vote for your favorite. If you are going to vote, try ALL of them. Don't just vote for the first one.
Smiley43210 #186
Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:27 PM
You broke the paste bin commands in the OP; don't just copy and paste, do "Paste as Plain Text" on Windows or "Paste and Match Style" on Macs. Then it won't paste the text with color.

Edit: Is it just me, or do most of them not work? I'm afraid I'm doing something wrong.
oeed #187
Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:24 PM
You broke the paste bin commands in the OP; don't just copy and paste, do "Paste as Plain Text" on Windows or "Paste and Match Style" on Macs. Then it won't paste the text with color.

Edit: Is it just me, or do most of them not work? I'm afraid I'm doing something wrong.

Some of the judges have said that.
Sammich Lord #188
Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:26 PM
You broke the paste bin commands in the OP; don't just copy and paste, do "Paste as Plain Text" on Windows or "Paste and Match Style" on Macs. Then it won't paste the text with color.

Edit: Is it just me, or do most of them not work? I'm afraid I'm doing something wrong.
First one I know doesn't work very well or at all. But I was having problems with CCDesk. I'm pretty sure I found a bug with it. Not sure if Lochie knows about it. But I will test them all tomorrow morning.
Symmetryc #189
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:03 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
Sammich Lord #190
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:13 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
Somebody may of voted for their own script.
Symmetryc #191
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:16 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
Somebody may of voted for their own script.
Ah. I was wondering why :P/>.
SadKingBilly #192
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:17 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
I tried all of the programs except number six. I got all of them to start except for number eight. Number four, specifically, worked just fine. Are you running them in Minecraft or in an emulator?
Symmetryc #193
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:19 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
I tried all of the programs except number six. I got all of them to start except for number eight. Number four, specifically, worked just fine. Are you running them in Minecraft or in an emulator?
Emulator :P/>. That's why I asked if it was just me, because if others responded that they had different results, I would know why. I'll try again in Minecraft sometime.
Sammich Lord #194
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:21 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
I tried all of the programs except number six. I got all of them to start except for number eight. Number four, specifically, worked just fine. Are you running them in Minecraft or in an emulator?
Emulator :P/>. That's why I asked if it was just me, because if others responded that they had different results, I would know why. I'll try again in Minecraft sometime.
I was trying with CCDesk. I used computer with IDs higher than 200 and rednet didn't seem to work. When I switched to low IDs such as 5 or 6 some did work. Not sure why this is.
Symmetryc #195
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:30 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
I tried all of the programs except number six. I got all of them to start except for number eight. Number four, specifically, worked just fine. Are you running them in Minecraft or in an emulator?
Emulator :P/>. That's why I asked if it was just me, because if others responded that they had different results, I would know why. I'll try again in Minecraft sometime.
I was trying with CCDesk. I used computer with IDs higher than 200 and rednet didn't seem to work. When I switched to low IDs such as 5 or 6 some did work. Not sure why this is.
Yeah, I just tried it again in CCDesk and the fourth one worked, I don't know why…

Anyways, it is pretty amazing, I think I know what I'm going to vote for, I just have to take a look a couple more that crashed. ;)/>
theoriginalbit #196
Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:44 PM
I was trying with CCDesk. I used computer with IDs higher than 200 and rednet didn't seem to work. When I switched to low IDs such as 5 or 6 some did work. Not sure why this is.
Yeh I think Lochie has some bugs with rednet… I always get "no modem open on a side" when i try to use the rednet api. I have to use the modems…
Spongy141 #197
Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:23 AM
I was trying with CCDesk. I used computer with IDs higher than 200 and rednet didn't seem to work. When I switched to low IDs such as 5 or 6 some did work. Not sure why this is.
Yeh I think Lochie has some bugs with rednet… I always get "no modem open on a side" when i try to use the rednet api. I have to use the modems…
Yea, for judging I think you guys should use minecraft, not a emulator, since there will be less problems with minecraft (obviously CC installed).
theoriginalbit #198
Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:37 AM
Yea, for judging I think you guys should use minecraft, not a emulator, since there will be less problems with minecraft (obviously CC installed).
Except that I'm not a judge.
AfterLifeLochie #199
Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:13 AM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
Somebody may of voted for their own script.
In this as well - please be aware that you shouldn't be using multiple accounts. Administrators can see who voted for what option(s), so if I suspect trickery or duplicate-accounts I'll think of some punishment if it happens.
LordIkol #200
Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:47 AM
Entry Number 9 broke the Following Rule:

- All programs are to be made completely anonymously, there can be no instance of your username or anything that could be recognised as you (logos etc).

He has his former Username in the Programm, took me a minute to find out who AquaJD is.
nitrogenfingers #201
Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:44 AM
About a third of the way through judging so far, rather variable quality and some I clearly prefer over others. Had to share this though.

I know we binary input wasn't asked for, but some programs handle it a bit more gracefully than others. Here's my favourite image 'warp':

Spoiler
jag #202
Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:25 AM
So I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.


I take back everything I said. My opinion will from here on now always be anonymous.
Spongy141 #203
Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:40 AM
So I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.
You really should try those again on minecraft, CC emulator is buggy, I personally never got rednet to work on it, so you might want to recheck those on minecraft (installed CC), and I bet a few more would actually work.
This is kinda at all people who are judging the programs and are using a emulator… your not going to get the same results as you would if using minecraft, were the programs would probably be used the most…
Kingdaro #204
Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:45 AM
I don't think tomass' emulator has modem peripheral functions. Last I tried to use it, it didn't have the capabilities. I might not have been using an updated version though.

As Spongy said, if you people plan on using these programs (and making them too, probably) I would just rely on minecraft itself, as it's updated, doesn't have as many bugs and most accurately simulates the kind of environment your program would be used in.
SadKingBilly #205
Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:47 AM
SpoilerSo I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.
As one of the people competing, I really did not think that this would have to be said.

But this was not a competition to see who could make a working program in CCEmu or CCDesk. Both of these are great emulators, and I have a lot of respect for their creators, but the fact of the matter is that neither one of them is ComputerCraft. My program, for instance, works perfectly in MineCraft, but won't even run in an emulator. This is because I did not test it in an emulator, I tested it in MineCraft. Because—as I said—the competition was not to make a working CCEmu program. The competition was to make a working ComputerCraft program. I would never have submitted a program that was incapable of even running.

Please, people, either try our programs in MineCraft or don't vote at all.
jag #206
Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:13 AM
Spoiler
SpoilerSo I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.
As one of the people competing, I really did not think that this would have to be said.

But this was not a competition to see who could make a working program in CCEmu or CCDesk. Both of these are great emulators, and I have a lot of respect for their creators, but the fact of the matter is that neither one of them is ComputerCraft. My program, for instance, works perfectly in MineCraft, but won't even run in an emulator. This is because I did not test it in an emulator, I tested it in MineCraft. Because—as I said—the competition was not to make a working CCEmu program. The competition was to make a working ComputerCraft program. I would never have submitted a program that was incapable of even running.

Please, people, either try our programs in MineCraft or don't vote at all.
Thank you for saying this, I did not think far enough to test it in-game.
I fell bad and douchey.

I give you all respect, you have after all given a lot of time making this,
and I hope you apologise me for this.

I don't really know what to say else then sorry.
MKlegoman357 #207
Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:00 PM
I noticed that competitors can vote for them self, twice.

So, maybe there is a way to discount those votes when you will count all the votes? If so, this would be more honest competition.

And for the competitors, don't vote for your self.

EDIT: Unless your program REALY IS (in your opinion) one of the best.

Sorry about that "idiot" part.
Lyqyd #208
Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:06 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
Somebody may of voted for their own script.
In this as well - please be aware that you shouldn't be using multiple accounts. Administrators can see who voted for what option(s), so if I suspect trickery or duplicate-accounts I'll think of some punishment if it happens.

You wouldn't happen to be able to modify the poll without allowing re-voting would you? It would suck to make everyone who had voted vote again, but a single question select-up-to-two might be better than a double-question poll. Those who more strongly favor one vote only for it so as to not dilute their vote, those liking two vote for both of them.
SadKingBilly #209
Posted 14 May 2013 - 01:15 PM
[…] And for the competitors, don't vote for your self, don't be an idiot.
You know, presidential candidates are able to vote for themselves. If someone did not believe that they were worthy of winning, then why would they be running? I don't think anyone has an issue with the competitors voting for themselves, as long as they're honest about whether they deserve the vote or not.
Spongy141 #210
Posted 14 May 2013 - 05:55 PM
[…] And for the competitors, don't vote for your self, don't be an idiot.
You know, presidential candidates are able to vote for themselves. If someone did not believe that they were worthy of winning, then why would they be running? I don't think anyone has an issue with the competitors voting for themselves, as long as they're honest about whether they deserve the vote or not.
I personally did not vote, since I think competitors should not vote… it just raises the chance of cheating…
Grim Reaper #211
Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:44 PM
So I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.
Spoiler
SpoilerSo I tested them all, I am not a judger so I do now go after the criteria.

1 confusing, modem placement is bad. the system could use a "tutorial"
2 bad UI, but works.
3 nice UI, but weird controls.
4 errors, non working.
5 errors server side, too many channels.
6 very nice UI, but not functional.
7 very nice UI, but not functional.
8 no visible UI, and not functional.
9 quickTils API not found, not functional.
10 very nice UI, functional and effective. confusing at first, could help with a tutorial or similar.

* green ones sends/receives files without corruption.
* red ones can't send/receive or is too complicated to be used.
(by too complicated; I mean that for someone that dosen't know how to use it, it will be pointless)

I tested them on the CC emulator by tomass1996 running CraftOS 1.5.
I think if the coders got more time and not the pressure they could finish these programs and publish them for private/public use.
Tho I am surprised of the small progress people have made, I guess their private time is very limited.

As long as your program is working in a proper way, and as best it can run without someone giving
instructions before hand, then I'd say the program is good and needs a place at the top 3 rank.

Of course this is only my opinion, the real judges will perhaps give out totally different scores.
After all, they're going after a criteria list.
As one of the people competing, I really did not think that this would have to be said.

But this was not a competition to see who could make a working program in CCEmu or CCDesk. Both of these are great emulators, and I have a lot of respect for their creators, but the fact of the matter is that neither one of them is ComputerCraft. My program, for instance, works perfectly in MineCraft, but won't even run in an emulator. This is because I did not test it in an emulator, I tested it in MineCraft. Because—as I said—the competition was not to make a working CCEmu program. The competition was to make a working ComputerCraft program. I would never have submitted a program that was incapable of even running.

Please, people, either try our programs in MineCraft or don't vote at all.
Thank you for saying this, I did not think far enough to test it in-game.
I fell bad and douchey.

I give you all respect, you have after all given a lot of time making this,
and I hope you apologise me for this.

I don't really know what to say else then sorry.

As one of the competitors, it might have been more helpful and less abrasive if you added some kind of constructive criticism or description as to what you meant by each of your comments. However, I think that you saying what you did was a step in the right direction. Thanks for that, at least :P/>.
AfterLifeLochie #212
Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:47 PM
The fourth one already has a vote even though it instantly crashes on bootup (unless that's just me)…?
I tried all of the programs except number six. I got all of them to start except for number eight. Number four, specifically, worked just fine. Are you running them in Minecraft or in an emulator?
A significant number of them did not work in Minecraft 1.5.1 with ComputerCraft 1.51, and the default configuration - which seems to have tripped up several programs.

You should not have developed with emulators, as no emulator is going to be 100% accurate. I can tell you which programs were developed with CCDesk as the authors have actually written code around bugs in the current version of CCDesk – I'm a tad disappointed the only testing done by some developers, in a week, was in a prototype emulation environment which isn't even finished yet.

This aside – all the functioning projects all fell into several file-based traps - and I wasn't the only to notice as far as I know. If oeed releases comments or something, we can probably actually release some real feedback and "commonly well and not-well done things". I'm not sure what the plan is regarding that - or even if there is one.

Some programs are missing parts, which I'm fairly certain is mere user-error (for example, missing API's or files). If you're one of these people, you should contact oeed and submit the missing parts so we can give you a fair, balanced mark, as soon as possible. It is a shame to be unable to mark some of these programs - which look intact code-wise, but don't run due to these issues. (This isn't an open-plate for you to change programs, though.)


[…] And for the competitors, don't vote for your self, don't be an idiot.
You know, presidential candidates are able to vote for themselves. If someone did not believe that they were worthy of winning, then why would they be running? I don't think anyone has an issue with the competitors voting for themselves, as long as they're honest about whether they deserve the vote or not.
I personally did not vote, since I think competitors should not vote… it just raises the chance of cheating…
How does it raise the chance of cheating when staff can seewho voted for what, and from which IP address? You can't exactly cheat a system where administrators can see who did what. You seem to be obsessed over something that is not an issue.
SadKingBilly #213
Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:05 PM
[…] This aside – all the functioning projects all fell into several file-based traps - and I wasn't the only to notice as far as I know. If oeed releases comments or something, we can probably actually release some real feedback and "commonly well and not-well done things". I'm not sure what the plan is regarding that - or even if there is one.

Some programs are missing parts, which I'm fairly certain is mere user-error (for example, missing API's or files). If you're one of these people, you should contact oeed and submit the missing parts so we can give you a fair, balanced mark, as soon as possible. It is a shame to be unable to mark some of these programs - which look intact code-wise, but don't run due to these issues. (This isn't an open-plate for you to change programs, though.) […]
I think all the competitors would greatly appreciate feedback. After all, the only reason I participated at all was to improve. As far as I knew, there was nothing wrong with my program. So it would be a great learning experience to hear—especially from some of the most talented people on this website—what was wrong with my program. Either way, it's great that you guys are giving your time to this.
oeed #214
Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:18 PM
When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.
oeed #215
Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:20 PM
Entry Number 9 broke the Following Rule:

- All programs are to be made completely anonymously, there can be no instance of your username or anything that could be recognised as you (logos etc).

He has his former Username in the Programm, took me a minute to find out who AquaJD is.

Thank you. They have been disqualified.

On this, even if you don't use your current username you are still hinting who made it. One of the most important rules required all program to be anonymous.
Symmetryc #216
Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:39 PM
When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.
So, are the results based 50% on community and 50% of judging? So that if we bombed the poll we can still win if the judges pick us :P/>?
nitrogenfingers #217
Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:20 PM
[…] And for the competitors, don't vote for your self, don't be an idiot.
You know, presidential candidates are able to vote for themselves. If someone did not believe that they were worthy of winning, then why would they be running? I don't think anyone has an issue with the competitors voting for themselves, as long as they're honest about whether they deserve the vote or not.

There's a very good reason why participants should not vote for their own programs, indeed why they shouldn't be voting at all. It's called a conflict of interest. This poll is supposed to represent a subjective but unbiased reflection of which programs were considered to be the best by all participants, and the removal of bias is done by anonymising entries. This measure is not effective on participants however as it's not double-blind; i.e. they can recognize their own entries. In addition to that, incentives exist for the participant to vote for reasons other than which program is the best because of that bias. Ergo the conflict of interest exists and the votes should be considered invalid.
The political candidate analogy is a flawed one because so far as I know most candidates don't run anonymously :P/>
Spongy141 #218
Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:33 PM
Entry Number 9 broke the Following Rule:

- All programs are to be made completely anonymously, there can be no instance of your username or anything that could be recognised as you (logos etc).

He has his former Username in the Programm, took me a minute to find out who AquaJD is.

Thank you. They have been disqualified.

On this, even if you don't use your current username you are still hinting who made it. One of the most important rules required all program to be anonymous.
I hope you got my PM, its vital that you read it… and it does affect the scoring of the programs, as of now (the current programs list) isn't fully correct with your copying skills….
Dave-ee Jones #219
Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:11 AM
DID I MISS IT?! C'mon…I had a pretty good program… :(/>
Oh, well. I'll just upload it as a public program and keep updating it… Have fun, all!

EDIT: Strike my pretty good program. These ones are tonnes better. Mines like a test program compared to these ones. :P/>
oeed #220
Posted 15 May 2013 - 06:32 AM
When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.
So, are the results based 50% on community and 50% of judging? So that if we bombed the poll we can still win if the judges pick us :P/>?

In short, no.
Symmetryc #221
Posted 15 May 2013 - 09:46 PM
When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.
So, are the results based 50% on community and 50% of judging? So that if we bombed the poll we can still win if the judges pick us :P/>?

In short, no.
So then what is the ratio :P/>?
theoriginalbit #222
Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:35 PM
So then what is the ratio :P/>?
I'd say:
Judging 99%
Community 1%
Symmetryc #223
Posted 16 May 2013 - 05:04 PM
So then what is the ratio :P/>?
I'd say:
Judging 99%
Community 1%
But then why'd he say "no" when I asked that "If someone bombed the poll but did good in judging would they still have a chance of winning"? Or was he responding to what I thought were the ratios?
SadKingBilly #224
Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:04 PM
So then what is the ratio :P/>?
I'd say:
Judging 99%
Community 1%
But then why'd he say "no" when I asked that "If someone bombed the poll but did good in judging would they still have a chance of winning"? Or was he responding to what I thought were the ratios?
Presumably, you'll find out tomorrow. I believe that's when oeed said they'll be announcing the scores/winners/what-have-you.
oeed #225
Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:16 PM
Yea, to be honest there isn't really any exact ratio. Today I'll collate all the judging and poll results to give us first, second and possibly a third place. It's basically based on the general gist of what people are saying. This may change later of course, but this challenge has a few rather clear winners.
Spongy141 #226
Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:33 AM
Yea, to be honest there isn't really any exact ratio. Today I'll collate all the judging and poll results to give us first, second and possibly a third place. It's basically based on the general gist of what people are saying. This may change later of course, but this challenge has a few rather clear winners.
So is it going to be fully based off the poll or the judges decision?
Symmetryc #227
Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:35 AM
Yea, to be honest there isn't really any exact ratio. Today I'll collate all the judging and poll results to give us first, second and possibly a third place. It's basically based on the general gist of what people are saying. This may change later of course, but this challenge has a few rather clear winners.
So is it going to be fully based off the poll or the judges decision?
I think it will be a mix and whatever seems right will go.
Shnupbups #228
Posted 18 May 2013 - 01:14 AM
Are people who dropped out in Round 1 allowed to compete in Round 2?
Spongy141 #229
Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:39 AM
Are people who dropped out in Round 1 allowed to compete in Round 2?
Yes… (I think, at least I remember reading on this thread that you could)
oeed #230
Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:04 AM
Are people who dropped out in Round 1 allowed to compete in Round 2?

Yes
Spongy141 #231
Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:07 AM
Could you PM us our scores?
M4sh3dP0t4t03 #232
Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:15 AM
A door lock? Well you have to be kidding me. The only thing I would know that would make it better than other ones would be encryption which I have no idea of how it works and a nice GUI which I suck at.

Edit: actually I figured out a way to make it better than other ones, but it wouldn't be a door opener as you expected it
oeed #233
Posted 18 May 2013 - 04:54 AM
A number of people have messaged me, and here, commenting on how simple it is. But similar to the last challenge the possibilities are huge. The one requirement is that it opens a door. You don't need a password or a GUI etc. But, you can.
M4sh3dP0t4t03 #234
Posted 18 May 2013 - 04:57 AM
A number of people have messaged me, and here, commenting on how simple it is. But similar to the last challenge the possibilities are huge. The one requirement is that it opens a door. You don't need a password or a GUI etc. But, you can.
Would it also be possible to let it open other things than a door? Because that's part of my plan for it.
oeed #235
Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:12 AM
A number of people have messaged me, and here, commenting on how simple it is. But similar to the last challenge the possibilities are huge. The one requirement is that it opens a door. You don't need a password or a GUI etc. But, you can.
Would it also be possible to let it open other things than a door? Because that's part of my plan for it.

Yes, the one and only requirement is that is can open a door.
Engineer #236
Posted 18 May 2013 - 05:18 AM
oeed said:
can you read your PM? :)/>
Cruor #237
Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:41 AM
This is going to be so good!
It may sound silly simple on one side, but it is so huge that you can practicaly do whatever you want.
Looking forward to the results, don't just throw the task away because it sounds simple.

Happy… Door opening!
Kingdaro #238
Posted 18 May 2013 - 12:40 PM
Are we allowed to submit multiple programs?
oeed #239
Posted 18 May 2013 - 08:16 PM
Are we allowed to submit multiple programs?

No, purely for fairness. However, you are welcome to change your submission before the final submit date.
Simon #240
Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:12 AM
Wait, I can't find the downloads/pastebin links for any of the round 1 programs. Where are they?
Jarle212 #241
Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:02 AM
Are we allowed to submit multiple programs?

No, purely for fairness. However, you are welcome to change your submission before the final submit date.

But we can make a client and a server program for the comp, right?
theoriginalbit #242
Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:12 AM
But we can make a client and a server program for the comp, right?
When required, if it is part of your solution, then I don't see why there wouldn't be any problems with that… Especially since they are both part of the same submission. The problem would arise when you make two individual submissions of two different programs.
Jarle212 #243
Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:20 AM
But we can make a client and a server program for the comp, right?
When required, if it is part of your solution, then I don't see why there wouldn't be any problems with that… Especially since they are both part of the same submission. The problem would arise when you make two individual submissions of two different programs.

Thank you for clearing it out :)/>
Symmetryc #244
Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:23 AM
Are you still going to do the "How to improve" thing? Mentioned below.

When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.
oeed #245
Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:09 PM
Wait, I can't find the downloads/pastebin links for any of the round 1 programs. Where are they?
Round 1's voting is completed, you can't download them anymore. If you'd like a specific entry let me know.

Are you still going to do the "How to improve" thing? Mentioned below.

When all the judges have completed their judging and the poll closes (this Friday) I will release the general comments by the judges and the winner as well as who made what program. Half of the competition's aim is to improve your skill, so it would be a waste not to share how your program could be improved.

Yea, forgot about that, I'll try to do it today. I've had a case of to much stuff to do, too little time over the past two weeks. My emulator decided to kill it self half way through the competition when I installed JDK. (Dam you Apple and you stupid relationship with Java)
After that I sort of forgot about it, I started learning Minecraft moding and had school stuff. (My entry was number 6, if you hadn't picked it up).

Anyway, I'll try to today;
Symmetryc #246
Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:36 PM
Yea, forgot about that, I'll try to do it today. I've had a case of to much stuff to do, too little time over the past two weeks. My emulator decided to kill it self half way through the competition when I installed JDK. (Dam you Apple and you stupid relationship with Java)
After that I sort of forgot about it, I started learning Minecraft moding and had school stuff. (My entry was number 6, if you hadn't picked it up).

Anyway, I'll try to today;
OK, that's fine. We all get busy sometimes :P/>.
deleted #247
Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:17 PM
Do you know when the next CodeWars is because id be glad to join in.

If theres a next time here:

In game name: EthanAG
Coding experience: 1/2 Year of Lua, 2 Years java

Do you have Skype or Mumble: no sry
If so, Skype/Mumble name: explained up there

Anything to record with: Bandicam 10 mins so probably going in parts

Time Zone(and time i posted this) PTZ, Pacific Time Zone. Its 4:11 PM

Yeah just give me the ip next time for the server k.
oeed #248
Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:32 PM
Do you know when the next CodeWars is because id be glad to join in.

If theres a next time here:

In game name: EthanAG
Coding experience: 1/2 Year of Lua, 2 Years java

Do you have Skype or Mumble: no sry
If so, Skype/Mumble name: explained up there

Anything to record with: Bandicam 10 mins so probably going in parts

Time Zone(and time i posted this) PTZ, Pacific Time Zone. Its 4:11 PM

You can Round 2 now, you have to make a door lock. It is due this Sunday at 11:59PM GMT.
We don't need to know any other details, just PM me when you've finished your program.
Symmetryc #249
Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:53 PM
I've had no time at all this week and I haven't even started my program, I severely doubt there are any judging spots, but I'd love to join if I can.
deleted #250
Posted 24 May 2013 - 07:54 PM
Ok thanks oeed
deleted #251
Posted 24 May 2013 - 11:42 PM
Ok thanks oeed
Also I PM'ed you the code
AnthonyD98™ #252
Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:43 AM
I would love to compete in round 2 but I lack encryption skills which would surely render any door lock made by me useless. If It didn't require any encryption I would definitely be able to make a door lock program.
M4sh3dP0t4t03 #253
Posted 25 May 2013 - 03:50 AM
I would love to compete in round 2 but I lack encryption skills which would surely render any door lock made by me useless. If It didn't require any encryption I would definitely be able to make a door lock program.
You don't need encryption. The only thing the door lock must be able to do is opening doors. All other features are optional and not required.
oeed #254
Posted 25 May 2013 - 04:36 AM
I would love to compete in round 2 but I lack encryption skills which would surely render any door lock made by me useless. If It didn't require any encryption I would definitely be able to make a door lock program.
You don't need encryption. The only thing the door lock must be able to do is opening doors. All other features are optional and not required.

Ditto.

The challenges are designed so everyone can compete, all of the challenges will be simliar so won't require an advanced knowledge. But having one will help.
AnthonyD98™ #255
Posted 26 May 2013 - 01:10 AM
Its due this sunday? As in today?

I better get coding then.
oeed #256
Posted 26 May 2013 - 02:20 AM
New Zealand time will be about mid-day tomorrow.
AnthonyD98™ #257
Posted 26 May 2013 - 03:09 AM
I don't think I'll be able to finish my program in time, I've left it too long. Therefore I'm out. Once my program is finished I'll release it on the forums under the programs section for public use.
oeed #258
Posted 26 May 2013 - 04:14 AM
I don't think I'll be able to finish my program in time, I've left it too long. Therefore I'm out. Once my program is finished I'll release it on the forums under the programs section for public use.

If you have at a working stage feel free to submit it.
Mads #259
Posted 26 May 2013 - 04:27 AM
I feel that this is slightly un-organized now :P/>
oeed #260
Posted 26 May 2013 - 07:47 AM
I feel that this is slightly un-organized now :P/>

I've just got less time to be honest. I've been busy with tons of stuff and this is lower down the list.
Jarle212 #261
Posted 26 May 2013 - 04:59 PM
Tell me if my submission was ok oeed
Kingdaro #262
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:04 PM
Competitors have a little less than three hours I believe.
oeed #263
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:33 PM
Tell me if my submission was ok oeed

I've recieved it, thanks. Judging will start in the next few days.
Jarle212 #264
Posted 26 May 2013 - 05:35 PM
:)/>
oeed #265
Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:54 PM
Ok, the round finished about 2 hours ago. This time we only received 4 submissions, they will be judged public only. I'll release round 3 this Friday, if we don't have many more people at the end of the next round I won't be continuing this, I'm just rather busy and have other things to do.
Tjakka5 #266
Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:43 AM
Aw, I would have loved to submit, but I only notest it now…
So… we have to wait 'till Friday for the next one?
Engineer #267
Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:15 PM
will be judged public only

Well thats unfortunate, I was holding back because I wanted to judge.. Oh well… Sh*t happens
oeed #268
Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:41 PM
will be judged public only

Well thats unfortunate, I was holding back because I wanted to judge.. Oh well… Sh*t happens
Yea, sorry, I just don't have the time to set it up. If you want to create a criteria, judge them off that, send it to me and I'll send it to the other judges.
oeed #269
Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:42 PM
I have been talking to nitrogenfingers about a new system that would be closer to an eSport than the current system. I'll let you know soon.
nitrogenfingers #270
Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:11 AM
I do not think I'll have my new system ready in time for next week- it's going to require play-testing and balancing to get right and I haven't had enough time to implement the core. I expect however in a fortnight it'll be polished and awesome, and a really excellent challenge fair game for the most basic and the most experienced coders alike.

The main reason it's taking so long is because in addition to the actual API's and the simulation itself, it also requires a special testing and debugging environment as well, so I'm working on those. Will post more detailed information when it's ready.

Should be a fun new twist to Code Wars!
Jarle212 #271
Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:27 PM
I do not think I'll have my new system ready in time for next week- it's going to require play-testing and balancing to get right and I haven't had enough time to implement the core. I expect however in a fortnight it'll be polished and awesome, and a really excellent challenge fair game for the most basic and the most experienced coders alike.

The main reason it's taking so long is because in addition to the actual API's and the simulation itself, it also requires a special testing and debugging environment as well, so I'm working on those. Will post more detailed information when it's ready.

Should be a fun new twist to Code Wars!

What kind of system is it?
Is it a system that gives you points or something simmilar when testing aspects of your program or is it a voting system?
Lyqyd #272
Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:53 PM
None of the above. :)/>

Patience, grasshopper.
Jarle212 #273
Posted 29 May 2013 - 02:09 PM
:P/>
oeed #274
Posted 30 May 2013 - 02:40 AM
Uhhh, I've had a quick look on the forums for the first time in a few days and realised that I'm yet to upload the entries…

To those who are waiting on results, please just wait. I'm very busy at the moment, I'm writing an essay as we speak (stupid new english teacher giving us a new easay every week), and I really just do not have the time to do any of this stuff at the moment. I will try to do it next weekend, but at this stage if I don't, the next round will begin when nitrogenfingers is ready and if the judging hasn't been put up by then it's not happening. I'm really sorry about this, but I really don't have the time.
Symmetryc #275
Posted 07 June 2013 - 02:01 PM
Is this still going on? You said you've been having time problem but it's Friday now, so I'm not sure. Is the "new system" by NitrogenFingers ready yet?
Lyqyd #276
Posted 07 June 2013 - 03:12 PM
The new thing isn't ready yet. More ideas are being looked at for holding contests of this flavor.
Symmetryc #277
Posted 07 June 2013 - 08:04 PM
The new thing isn't ready yet. More ideas are being looked at for holding contests of this flavor.
OK, thanks :)/>.
nitrogenfingers #278
Posted 09 June 2013 - 02:13 AM
Sorry for the delay on this, was distracted.

I am still working on it, just trying to find a better way to make the code you will eventually have to submit be effectively modular. When I've better got my head around changing and adapting the environments, it'll be a fairly trivial job to implement.

Will post news as soon as I have it!
prana890 #279
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:34 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
M4sh3dP0t4t03 #280
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:37 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
Just. Buy. Minecraft!
TheOddByte #281
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:47 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
Just. Buy. Minecraft!
Yeah I agree upon that, But if (s)he is not old enough todo it then it's more problematic..
I know that you can use a minecraft proxy and play for free with an account that is registered on minecraft but that's not premium and join servers..
I used todo this before I got my account.. But if you can buy Minecraft then DO IT! :3
prana890 #282
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:52 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
Just. Buy. Minecraft!

Notch tell us to crack, So that's why I'm using cracked, because I dont have money!

EDIT : My pants wear off! Oops!
EDIT2 : I'm runout of money! I'm still unemployed until future comes
superaxander #283
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:54 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
Just. Buy. Minecraft!

Notch tell us to crack, So that's why I'm using cracked, because I dont have money!
Really you don't have €20,-? Or are you spending it the wrong way
prana890 #284
Posted 10 July 2013 - 06:58 PM
In about an hour my server will go online and I am going to continue coding on it. Anybody may join at play.codewars.tk or www.codewars.tk or if that doesn't work 217.123.143.78
Others may come coding aswell no worries http is enabled and modems are set to 5 radius no matter which weather

I wish there is an Cracked Server to join(and also computercraft!)
Just. Buy. Minecraft!

Notch tell us to crack, So that's why I'm using cracked, because I dont have money!
Really you don't have €20,-? Or are you spending it the wrong way

No, I'm trying to save it, But since Rupiah to US was quite low(1 dollar to Rupiah was 8 Rupiah), I cant buy it! I dont have credit card

EDIT : My grammars are wrong again!
superaxander #285
Posted 10 July 2013 - 07:00 PM
No, I'm trying to save it, But since Rupiah to US was quite low(1 dollar to Rupiah was 8 Rupiah), I cant buy it! I dont have credit card
Give money to you're parents and they can pay with credit card