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What irks you about IRL computer hardware?

Started by awsmazinggenius, 19 February 2014 - 08:17 PM
awsmazinggenius #1
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:17 PM
The title says it all: what bugs you about computer hardware? For me it's multiple monitors - I will use one large monitor, but having the gap in between screens bugs me, as well as using two different screens that do not look exactly the same - size, brand, look, resolution etc.

I also don't like certain keyboards, like this kind:

where each key is separated from the rest
Edited on 19 February 2014 - 08:17 PM
Symmetryc #2
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:21 PM
Haha, I actually kind of prefer that type of keyboard :P/>.
Bomb Bloke #3
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:26 PM
I don't get you - if all the keys were attached together, wouldn't pressing one press them all? Or are you thinking of some sort of touch pad…?

One thing that bugs me is SD card slots. The cards themselves have these little slide tabs on the side, to "lock" and "unlock" them. These don't actually do anything - it's up to the card reader to determine where the tab is, and act accordingly.

Only thing is, the little bit of metal that senses where the tab is is notorious for breaking (resulting in a card reader that acts as if all SD cards are read-only). There are a lot of bad designs certain manufacturers implement, but that's one that's fairly well standardised.
awsmazinggenius #4
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:30 PM
I guess ai'm saying I prefer they keyboards where the keys are a little more flat, like this:
Zambonie #5
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:35 PM
I dont know if this counts, It kinda is part of computer hardware, and part just the country itself, But the fact that 'Y' And 'Z' Are switched on keyboards in diffrent countrys.
Ex:
Germanys Keyboard:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/German-Keyboard-Layout-T3-Version1-large.png

American:
http://eurkey.steffen.bruentjen.eu/pics/eurkey.png
(WIndows 95 :D/> ^)

Notice The Z and Y.

I guess ai'm saying I prefer they keyboards where the keys are a little more flat, like this:
-snip-

I Like those keyboards to, and thank god my laptop has it. :)/>
theoriginalbit #6
Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:48 PM
I guess I'm saying I prefer they keyboards where the keys are a little more flat, like this:
-image snip-
Agreed, I really don't like using standard PC keyboards anymore after using the flat keyboards like what are commonly on Macs and newer Laptops. I especially hate using mechanical keyboards.
awsmazinggenius #7
Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:16 AM
Zambonie: I guess it counts, though you can remap your keys.

Yeah, I have a nice keyboard for Windows that is a lot like the Mac keyboard, and I much prefer using it to the keyboard in the OP. (My friend's PC has that one, I know what I'm talking about :)/>). I do like the Surface Touch Keyboard as a concept, but as it currently stands the keyboard will quite often miss a keystroke, which bugs me if I'm typing on a document and I make a typo because of it or if I'm trying to write code and it misses a letter of a variable name, causing much frustration when you are wondering "Why isn't this variable being updated!".
Lyqyd #8
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:11 AM
I don't like the flat keyboards. Way too little feedback in them. A real keyboard is far more satisfying to use; it just feels better. Flat keyboards are something I'd only expect to see in a laptop, where every bit of vertical space counts. I'm actually kind of looking around for a good keyboard right now, since my old USB one died. A nice, non-wireless USB keyboard with real keys, bonus points if it's mechanical. That old IBM mechanical keyboard clack is incredibly satisfying.
theoriginalbit #9
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:15 AM
the clicking of mechanical keyboards drives me crazy! haha.
Bomb Bloke #10
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:15 AM
I suppose we're two keyboard pics in already, another won't hurt. Here's mine:



The anchor for the enter key broke long ago, and touch typing is enforced. ;)/>

I've fingers are maybe a little longer then average, so I don't mind larger keys/keyboards. I do mind missing buttons, and laptop layouts tend to cramp things in (and so put buttons in rather non-standard locations).

Apple keyboards aren't bad at all (well, the USB ones, anyway), but their current mice leave a lot to be desired. The scrollball holes on top of their USB variety clog up with lint and are designed in such a way that you literally have to break the mouse open to clean then properly. The bluetooth ones solve this problem nicely with their touch sensitive surface, but I have to hold them with my hand bent into a claw due to their small size (and of course there's the whole "messing with batteries" thing too). Neither mouse is easy to click with unless you've actually got them pressed down on some surface or other, and they're also rigged so that you can't click one side while even touching the other (using a mechanism that I'm sure's intentional, but I can't make head or tail as to why they're made like that).

But don't get me started picking holes in Apple's hardware designs. I'll never stop.
Edited on 20 February 2014 - 12:17 AM
Alice #11
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:20 AM
I'd like to see someone who doesn't know keyboard layout well use that keyboard

Off the topic of keyboards, the thing that bugs me the most is propably the lack of ability to have more than two monitors for most the computers I use.
I have a ton of monitors and TV's laying around, along with the cords for them, but I can't use them on my computer because the lack of ports.
theoriginalbit #12
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:29 AM
laptop layouts tend to cramp things in (and so put buttons in rather non-standard locations)
you think laptops are bad, you should try netbooks!
Alice #13
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:41 AM
laptop layouts tend to cramp things in (and so put buttons in rather non-standard locations)
you think laptops are bad, you should try netbooks!
Good point with netbooks, my mom has one and half her Function keys are used by pressing Fn+F1-6, everything is just out of place on it.
gollark8 #14
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:51 AM
It's very annoying how macs have the extra command keys.
I got a generic USB keyboard for my mac since the batteries ran out at very inconvenient times and since there isn't a command key I can't force terminate minecraft when a mod gets me stuck on shutting down internal server.
theoriginalbit #15
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:58 AM
It's very annoying how macs have the extra command keys.
I got a generic USB keyboard for my mac since the batteries ran out at very inconvenient times and since there isn't a command key I can't force terminate minecraft when a mod gets me stuck on shutting down internal server.
I've no idea what the hell you're on about there… the Command key and Windows keys are interchangeable depending on the keyboard you have attached to a Mac. the key is just in a different location, but they produce the same result.
gollark8 #16
Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:48 AM
It's very annoying how macs have the extra command keys.
I got a generic USB keyboard for my mac since the batteries ran out at very inconvenient times and since there isn't a command key I can't force terminate minecraft when a mod gets me stuck on shutting down internal server.
I've no idea what the hell you're on about there… the Command key and Windows keys are interchangeable depending on the keyboard you have attached to a Mac. the key is just in a different location, but they produce the same result.
That doesn't work for me.
theoriginalbit #17
Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:51 AM
That doesn't work for me.
Just tested it again with my old keyboard set, I can use the Windows key as the Command key.
Bomb Bloke #18
Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:03 AM
Indeed, should just work without any need to configure or tweak anything.

I'm pretty sure the Cmd key is one of the ones you can re-assign under the keyboard section of System Preferences, though.
Spexiono #19
Posted 20 February 2014 - 05:20 AM
Ever since i got my hands on a Model M I've found normal "Rubber dome" keyboards to be close to unusable.
But what really bugs me about it is the Cheapo PS/2 to USB adapter I'm using seems to be a bit buggy with holding down keys… -_-/>
6677 #20
Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:48 PM
laptop layouts tend to cramp things in (and so put buttons in rather non-standard locations)
you think laptops are bad, you should try netbooks!
Good point with netbooks, my mom has one and half her Function keys are used by pressing Fn+F1-6, everything is just out of place on it.
God, my laptop has its media control, brightness and wifi enable/disable keys shared with the function keys, by default pressing that row will enact the media commands etc and holding Fn is required in order for me to press F7 or whatever I was after. My old laptop had a simple key labelled Fn Lock. Pressing it would simply lock the Fn Key on, and that was preserved through system reboots and even booting into different OS's (it was dual booted). Current laptop doesnt have that key, its a BIOS setting instead….. Considering I always reconfigure my machines BIOS settings slightly it wasnt a major issue, but having the key instead would have been nice as when watching films etc I do genuinely wish to go back to media first.

I dont know if this counts, It kinda is part of computer hardware, and part just the country itself, But the fact that 'Y' And 'Z' Are switched on keyboards in diffrent countrys.
Ex:
Germanys Keyboard:
http://upload.wikime...sion1-large.png

American:
http://eurkey.steffe...pics/eurkey.png
(WIndows 95 :D/> ^)

Notice The Z and Y.
This is actually one of the reasons I hate apple. I am english, an english and american keyboard is different. shift-2 is " instead of @ (they are simply swapped) and we have a few other keys moved too.



Apple have what they call a UK keyboard. Their UK keyboard moves the \ | key to be in the UK location next to Z, introduces the double height enter key and changes shift-3 to be £ instead of #. But they don't move # into its UK place, it becomes alt-3 which is simple enough I guess. But it is still just a weird hybrid of UK and US keyboard layouts, not a true UK layout. Seems really pointless to me, they are spending money on a UK keyboard which is then just wrong, why dont they make it a real UK keyboard? I went to write a python script on my dads mac, this should be easy. Instinctively I go for shift-2 for " and end up writing @Enter Selection@, had to google how to insert a # to begin a comment line. Really really really awkward for what is supposedly a UK keyboard. Even more bizarre actually, it does generate normal UK keyboard scancodes for the incorrect key locations, you press alt-3 for a # and it will generate the normal UK scancode for the # key which does mean at least other OS'es recognise it as a standard UK keyboard and OSX works with a standard UK keyboard.
Anyone who is thinking about buying an apple computer in the UK and will be programming on it, buy a normal windows keyboard at the same time.


One thing that bugs me is SD card slots. The cards themselves have these little slide tabs on the side, to "lock" and "unlock" them. These don't actually do anything - it's up to the card reader to determine where the tab is, and act accordingly.

Only thing is, the little bit of metal that senses where the tab is is notorious for breaking (resulting in a card reader that acts as if all SD cards are read-only). There are a lot of bad designs certain manufacturers implement, but that's one that's fairly well standardised.
The tab is pretty useless, but did you know that there is a command when operating a card in SPI mode to enforce write protection? Most card readers dont have the ability to interact with that command at all, but you can build a device from an arduino easily enough to enable/disable write protection on the card itself regardless of tab position. You can also hardware alter your card reader to read the tab as being writable easily enough too if your card breaks.
Edited on 20 February 2014 - 12:51 PM
awsmazinggenius #21
Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:15 PM
In reply to Death: That would actually be a non-issue to me, as having multiple monitors is actually one of the things that really bothers me, as I don't like the gap in the center, and my brain can only focus on one task at a time regardless of how many there are on the scree.
D3matt #22
Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:21 PM
When they don't work, and hardware that should be perfectly functional crashes *cough AMD cough*