[CC 1.63] MFR Rednet cable support

Firstly, really sorry if this is the wrong place for my post. I wasn't sure where to put this where it would be visible.

I know that cable support is supposed to be provided by the mod providing the cable, but when I hopped on the #powercrystalsmods channel, this is what happened -

[20:49] <SoraFirestorm> Hello, quick question. Are there any plans for MFR for 1.6.4 to utilize the ComputerCraft API for enabling the Rednet cable as a bundled cable interface?
[20:49] <skyboy> downgrade computercraft to 1.58
[20:50] <skyboy> computercraft is what implemented support for rednet prior to their 1.6 release where they decided to drop it
[20:50] <SoraFirestorm> I'm aware of this.
[20:50] <skyboy> then go complain to them
[20:50] <skyboy> it's not the responsibility of the various bundled cables to interact with clients
[20:51] <skyboy> it'd be like requiring you to run an IRC server to join an IRC network
[20:52] <SoraFirestorm> It makes more sense for MFR to provide the support, since MFR is providing the cable.
[20:52] <skyboy> that's the opposite of sense
[20:52] <skyboy> MFR is providing the network. computercraft is supplying the clients
[20:53] <skyboy> and no, i will never support CC's cable API
[20:53] <skyboy> if they want to be compatible with multiple bundled cables: they have to bear the burden of wanting that compatibility
[20:54] <SoraFirestorm> Okay. Well, thank you for taking your time to speak with me.

So now I'm not really sure what to do. I've tried looking for a little glue mod that would provide this support, but I haven't yielded anything from that search. If I had skill with Java, I'd consider making this mod or even trying to modify MFR into doing it.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

~Sora

I assume one day a peripheral or some such will surface to act as a go-between. Similar to the ones that appeared for using ProjectRed's cables with CC 1.5x.

But that probably won't be aimed at CC 1.63. That build has other issues that'll keep it out of the more popular mod packs, and it appears there will be no more CC releases for MC 1.6.4. Otherwise we'd likely've seen a solution appear already - I'd expect it to be quickly remedied once the modding scene stabilises on whatever new MC version it ends up on, and CC comes out with a stable build for that.

There already is a mod you can use for this. OpenComputers can send and receive ComputerCraft modem messages, and use bundled cables from MFR (and other mods). Write your program to send modem messages to an OC computer, then write an OC program to receive those messages and emit Redstone/Bundled Cable signals. Also, it seems that theoriginalbit plans on adding this into his MoarPeripherals mod if he hasn't already.

Wow, I didn't know skyboy was such a prick. I don't know how he gets it in his mind that we are supposed to make modifications to the mod for every mod that wants us to implement support.If we did that, then we'd have to update CC every time a mod changes their API, or makes a new version, or some such. It does not make sense.

Either way, it's good to finally get a definitive answer as to whether or not he will implement the change.

I suppose from his point of view, CC's API requires everyone else to update every time it's changed. Granted, Dan likely doesn't intend to alter it, but that may not be his decision to make - the most obvious factor outside his control is "Mojang".

Certainly, I'd say he's right about the responsibility of compatibility falling to who ever wants that compatibility.

Frankly I suspect he's simply getting sick of people asking him about it.

While I do see the point of view where compatibility falling to the mod that wants it, sadly its not that simple. The way dan has done it now is far simpler; a mod add support into ComputerCraft when they have a compatible cable. knowing how dan implemented the bundled cable support, and the side effects that has, it is definitely better the way we have it.

Better for who, though? Not skyboy, obviously - previously he didn't have to do anything special to get it to work under ComputerCraft. The fact is that someone has to sit down and do the work before it will, well… work.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the API is a change that should be reverted, and I'm certainly not saying Dan should implement MFR support himself. What I am saying is that if skyboy isn't interested in doing it, then that's fine - he doesn't owe it to anybody (at least, I assume he never promised otherwise). Again, odds are someone who does want it will provide a peripheral or something.

probably best to cut your losses and add mfr support to cc. if you can't beat them join them. though skyboy is being completely lazy and irrational.

I have just started to use CC in modpack Tekkit and have become a huge fan of this mod. But what I use most is the rednet cable + computer to make my own programs to control machines with redstone power. I realy think that CC without the possiblilty to interact with other mods blocks with redstone power throu multiply channel cables cripples it.
So maybe CC should add their own bundled cable instead of relying on other mods to maybe add support for CC.

There is no need for calling skyboy names over this. You guys are welcome to discuss the topic, but there is no reason to bring personal attacks into it. They won't help anything and all they do is make the name-caller and, by extension, the forum community look bad. I won't have this turning into a witch hunt. If he doesn't wish to add support for the CC bundled cable API, that's his call.