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Unable to load computercraft.info

Started by Konlab, 28 December 2015 - 11:31 AM
Konlab #1
Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:31 PM
Hi!
I noticed this a week ago, I was unable to load computercraft.info, I got DNS server error.
To load it I had to fake my IP so the server thinks I am in another country. What happenned? (From normal connection I still can't view it)
Creator #2
Posted 28 December 2015 - 12:56 PM
Do you get the Cloudfare error?
Lupus590 #3
Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:10 PM
The actual website is www.computercraft.info. I guess that your browser is not automatically prefixing that for you.
Konlab #4
Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:19 PM
No cloudfare error. My browser can't do the DNS lookup. Tried with www and without, too. I can only view the page from other countries
(Currently from Sweden)
Edited on 28 December 2015 - 12:21 PM
Creator #5
Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:46 PM
You are where? Germany?
Bomb Bloke #6
Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:48 PM
So what DNS server are you using? Your ISP's? What if you switch to eg Google's (8.8.8.8)?
Creator #7
Posted 28 December 2015 - 01:50 PM
So what DNS server are you using? Your ISP's? What if you switch to eg Google's (8.8.8.8)?

Is Google's better? On a side note, they will be able to know absolutely everything about you if you do so.
Edited on 28 December 2015 - 02:08 PM
Konlab #8
Posted 28 December 2015 - 03:06 PM
It was 8.8.4.4, set to 8.8.8.8 and it is working now.
Thanks!
CoderPuppy #9
Posted 28 December 2015 - 06:12 PM
The actual website is www.computercraft.info. I guess that your browser is not automatically prefixing that for you.
The browser doesn't actually prefix it. The browser goes through the normal DNS lookup process (which gives the same IP address for both computercraft.info and www.computercraft.info) then sends an HTTP request, the server (which seems to be some cloudflare server) then sees that the Host header is computercraft.info and responds with a status of 301 and the Location header set to www.computercraft.info/whatever/path/you/went/to.
Bomb Bloke #10
Posted 28 December 2015 - 11:03 PM
Is Google's better?

Not "better" so much as "different"; if one server's having problems, the answer is to change to another (at least until your preferred one gets fixed). In this case, Konlab was using Google's secondary DNS server, as it turned out (and is now using their primary). He'd probably get faster lookup times if he switched to his local ISP's, unless their DNS servers are really rubbish (they're still located closer to him, so less latency).

There's also the matter that some server companies host the same files at multiple data centers around the world. The idea is that your local DNS server will point you to the one that's closest, meaning you can download big files locally instead of pumping the data across from the other side of the world. Using a generic DNS server messes that up. If your ISP offers unmetered downloads from some services, it can therefore also mess that up, because you end up downloading from a server they're not expecting you to be using.

Long story short, if it's working, you're usually better off using your ISP's recommended service.

On a side note, they will be able to know absolutely everything about you if you do so.

It wouldn't surprise me to hear that ISPs sell lookup logs anyway.

Most people don't use the term "web search" anymore, and instead use "Google" as a verb. Switching to their DNS service probably won't tell them that much more about you than they already know.