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ComputerCraft getting close Ms-Dos

Started by 072608, 09 November 2012 - 04:13 PM
072608 #1
Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:13 PM
I happen to come upon old box 3 1/2 floppys with Ms-dos in it, so I put it on old computer I have. When I discovered how easy was to use it from using ComputerCraft. Like ComputerCraft in many ways is getting closer and closer to being a Ms-Dos type thing.The following are some of the things found out:
1.Ms-dos has some color with it like blue,black,green,white,and etc.
2.The Ms-dos command line is almost like ComputerCraft
ComputerCrafts:>_
Ms-dos:C:\_
3.The mkdir command is both in Ms-dos & computerCraft
4.The file system extremely close to being an copy

After seeing these things about how closely ComputerCraft is becoming Ms-dos which isn't a bad thing. To think that we can make a program that has the almost the same power as OS from the 90's, and this is big thing now it's not like other mods.
In the end ComputerCraft is becoming a computer on an computer.
aura #2
Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:16 PM
There is lots of improvement to be made on CC before it can even be considered as a MS-DOS. Take the copy program as an example, if you copy the program, you aren't prompted whether or not to overwrite and existing file or to keep it if the file already exists.
aura #3
Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:24 PM
"Microfags?" Quit being full of yourself. Microsoft has done nothing but get us one step closer to a world where technology rules everything and possibly even to the age of androids (and I dont mean the phones!).
Tiin57 #4
Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:22 PM
"Microfags?" Quit being full of yourself. Microsoft has done nothing but get us one step closer to a world where technology rules everything and possibly even to the age of androids (and I dont mean the phones!).
I would just ignore him (him = MechaTallon); he's an attention whore.
Dlcruz129 #5
Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:25 PM
Why would computercraft become a MS-DOS :3, MS = Microsoft… CC is in no way affiliated with Microfags.

My head hurts every time u make a post. Is this death? Is this rly u? Didn't u leave? Did you come back?

[/ramble]
Tiin57 #6
Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:28 PM
Why would computercraft become a MS-DOS :3, MS = Microsoft… CC is in no way affiliated with Microfags.

My head hurts every time u make a post. Is this death? Is this rly u? Didn't u leave? Did you come back?

[/ramble]
Again, just ignore him. He wants attention; i.e., don't feed the troll. It's too fat already.
aura #7
Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:29 PM
Can you quit with the off-topic? There has been a lot of threads locked for being off-topic for too long!
Espen #8
Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:22 PM
Disclaimer: Strictly speaking impersonal. No offense meant in any way!
I was just trying to find good explanations and comparisons. If anything sounds sarcastic, it is not meant like that!
And sorry if I'm being too apologetic.
*trololo*
It's 7 in the morning here (again) so I might not think very straight anymore.


Lua is not getting any closer to being an OS than a picture of a bird is to being an actual bird.
The reason for that is that Lua is a high level programming language. More than that, it is a scripting language.
It has nowhere near the capabilites for low-level ISA programming like e.g. assembler, which would be needed to talk directly to the hardware.

MS-DOS and Lua just look alike, that is all. The difference is in what's going on in the background.
Lua doesn't have a file-system, DOS has. Lua can't directly talk to the hardware, MS-DOS can.
Every simple shell nowadays might look like MS-DOS, but don't get deceived simply by what something looks like.

If we're talking about "simulating" a computer, then sure, something like ComputerCraft can give you that illusion.
But that's all it is, an illusion. Because in the case of ComputerCraft, Lua is running on Java.
And Java is running on the application layer of the operating system, which itself then (finally) runs on the hardware.

ComputerCraft is a simulator of a computer, if you will. It imitates being a computer.
The RP2 computer would be an example of an emulator, i.e. it actually emulates the functions of a real computer.

One of ComputerCraft's advantages of being a simulator is its speed (runs on Java) and ease of use due to its Lua implementation.
RP2's computer is much slower, because it actually emulates CPU operations, which is exactly what its advantage is if that is what you were looking for.
Both have their uses for different purposes, depending on what you need, want and are able to.
But here you can see how there's already a big difference between two virtual computer types such as these two.^^

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to bash you or something. Just thought you might be interested to know more about this.
If you're interested to know all the ins and outs, here are some sources to start out with:
Operating System Functions
When you turn on the power to a computer...
Wikipedia: Operating system
Wikipedia: Shell (computing)
Wikipedia: Low-level programming language
Wikipedia: High-level programming language
Cloudy #9
Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:57 PM
I dont have a PM system on this account as Cloudy has destroyed most of my permissions.

I haven't done anything to your account.

Edit: Somehow your account was flagged as Spam - I did do it accidentally back in October, but I then told the forum to remove it. Seems like I had to dig through the admin control panel to remove the spam flag - that has now been done.
Mendax #10
Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:46 PM
Funny, I just posted a DOS in the programs section…
Dlcruz129 #11
Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:35 PM
Your head hurts from my posts o_O that isn't good for you xD
Well anyways, I don't play CC anymore but I like checking up on this place every once in a while because sometimes you find good software x3
:unsure:/>/> I dont have a PM system on this account as Cloudy has destroyed most of my permissions.

xD I'm not death but lots of people seem to believe I am… infusion of identity.

Yeah, I know you made a new account, but what's stopping Death from stealing this one? And you gotta love Cloudy. ^_^/>/>
072608 #12
Posted 10 November 2012 - 08:51 PM
Well, I know that but I was talking about it is starting to look like Ms-dos.I didn't mean be it's own OS or anything like that.
Espen #13
Posted 11 November 2012 - 02:07 AM
Well, I know that but I was talking about it is starting to look like Ms-dos.I didn't mean be it's own OS or anything like that.
Point taken, that I'd definitely agree on.
Although if we're talking about the looks, then I'd say it actually looks more like a linux shell, as it uses "rm" for "del", "mv" for "move", etc.
Also it shows your path in a forward-slash notation instead of with back-slashes.
And finally the folder structure starts out from a root / and mounts things like e.g. disk drives under this root, whereas with MS-DOS you don't have a root, but different drive letters.
Sammich Lord #14
Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:55 AM
Your head hurts from my posts o_O that isn't good for you xD
Well anyways, I don't play CC anymore but I like checking up on this place every once in a while because sometimes you find good software x3
:unsure:/>/> I dont have a PM system on this account as Cloudy has destroyed most of my permissions.

xD I'm not death but lots of people seem to believe I am… infusion of identity.

Yeah, I know you made a new account, but what's stopping Death from stealing this one? And you gotta love Cloudy. ^_^/>/>
Mk and Death are actually best friends. The whole thing was a way for him to get rid of his old identity. Hard to explain all of it in one post.
Dlcruz129 #15
Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:18 PM
Your head hurts from my posts o_O that isn't good for you xD
Well anyways, I don't play CC anymore but I like checking up on this place every once in a while because sometimes you find good software x3
:unsure:/>/> I dont have a PM system on this account as Cloudy has destroyed most of my permissions.

xD I'm not death but lots of people seem to believe I am… infusion of identity.

Yeah, I know you made a new account, but what's stopping Death from stealing this one? And you gotta love Cloudy. ^_^/>/>
Mk and Death are actually best friends. The whole thing was a way for him to get rid of his old identity. Hard to explain all of it in one post.

Thanks, but ur not helping that headache. :(/>/>
Cloudy #16
Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:06 AM
Let's not make this an MK playground. Don't give him any more attention than he deserves.
Dlcruz129 #17
Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:57 AM
Let's not make this an MK playground. Don't give him any more attention than he deserves.

Excuse me?